Le 2011-06-25 11:11, Tyron Madlener a écrit :
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Marc
Delisle<marc(a)infomarc.info> wrote:
> Le 2011-06-25 08:56, Tyron Madlener a écrit :
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Marc Delisle<marc(a)infomarc.info>
wrote:
>>> Le 2011-06-25 08:07, Tyron Madlener a écrit :
>>>> I apologize for my directness but the newly implemented 'Create
table'
>>>> Dialog has an awful usability.
>>>
>>> Tyron,
>>> thanks for your post. There are two issues here:
>>>
>>> 1. the AJAX create table dialog
>>>
>>> 2. the ENUM/SET editor
>>>
>>> and they should be discussed separately.
>>>
>>> About 1, I am wondering if AJAXification was an advantage here. See also
>>> the discussion on 2011-04-08 "Issues with AJAX" on this list. I
>>> suggested a mechanism to hide most form fields by default.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, I've read through the conversation. I would agree on hiding
>> rarely used fields like "Browser transformation,Transformation
>> options,MIME type" but otherwise such feature in my opinion would only
>> decrease usability.
>> Hiding most form fields maybe fixes the problem, but it doesn't fix the
cause.
>
> One cause is the number of form fields for each column, and the small
> work area of the dialog increases this space problem.
>
>>
>> I don't think an ajax dialog for 'create table' is inherently worse.
>> It could actually be significantly better if for example the dialog
>> could span over the left frame as well, giving more editing space than
>> the old style create table page.
>
> I'm not sure that we can span a dialog over the other frame.
... but at least the dialog could span the main frame.
Yea, such feature will probably only work after framesets have been
removed, which should be done in the not so far future, I think
Do you suggest this removal for 3.5? I don't think that this has been
agreed to (at least for 3.5).
Besides,
the idea of the navigation frame is to have a reference spot that is
always available.
Why would someone need the navigation frame to be visible when a
dialog is open? If he needs to navigate away, a click on the ESC
button and he can do so again.
The gain from having more space would be greater than the
inconvenience of not seeing the navigation frame, I think.
Your argument makes sense.
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Marc Delisle
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