22 Apr
2002
22 Apr
'02
6:45 a.m.
Hi devs,
Let's discuss the game plan for 2.3.0.
- Merge the patches currently from the tracker
- Merge/code the new db-based config
- code some new features (I will be working on MyISAM options, and InnoDB support, + the
Relation
stuff
- interface: it's about time we split the pages: db_detail and tbl_properties.
Suggestions for the tbl_properties split
----------------------------------------
- generally, we move large sections of tbl_properties to seperate pages
- an [Export] link at the top, calling a page with the "view dump" dialog
- an [Attributes] link, for Alter table order by, Comments, Table type, and the upcoming
MyISAM
options (and InnoDB)
- an [Operations] link, for Rename, Move, Copy, Maintenance (4 items), Flush, Drop (maybe
Insert
data from a file)
- a [Structure] link, to show Fields and Indexes, + the Add field
- (not sure about this) by default, users clicking on a table name would see the familiar
Browse,
Select, Insert, Empty, Drop + the 4 new links, at the top, but not the structure. I find
that most
of the time, I don't want to see the structure, I just want to type queries, use
bookmarks, and be
able to use the other main links.
- a right/top-frame for the links?
Please comment.
--
Marc Delisle
22 Apr
22 Apr
8:13 a.m.
New subject: [Phpmyadmin-devel] Re: 2.3.0 roadmap discussion
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Delisle" <DelislMa(a)CollegeSherbrooke.qc.ca>
- code some new features
I'll work on my SHOW GRANTS patch and try to build the XML dump feature
mentioned in the tracker
Suggestions for the tbl_properties split
Your way of splitting sounds good.
- a right/top-frame for the links?
A right-top frame would be a good idea:
- In browse mode we put the navigation elements into the new frame, like in
feature request 546112.
- In tbl_properties we use it for the links as you suggested. It'll be very
usefull there since it makes the navigation between the different parts of
tbl_properties easier (after we have split them up into different pages).
Alexander
8:31 a.m.
Marc:
Since you say you will be working on the relation stuff, I have a suggestion:
Can we rename the field names in the relation table to something easier
to understand? Source and Destination don't work for me. How about
Primary and Foreign? That is:
pri_table
pri_field
for_table
for_field
or pkey_*, fkey_*
Or something like this.
What do others think?
Jay
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002, Marc Delisle <DelislMa(a)CollegeSherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
Hi devs,
Let's discuss the game plan for 2.3.0.
- Merge the patches currently from the tracker
- Merge/code the new db-based config
- code some new features (I will be working on MyISAM options, and InnoDB
support, + the Relation
stuff
- interface: it's about time we split the pages: db_detail and
tbl_properties.
Suggestions for the tbl_properties split
----------------------------------------
- generally, we move large sections of tbl_properties to seperate pages
- an [Export] link at the top, calling a page with the "view dump" dialog
- an [Attributes] link, for Alter table order by, Comments, Table type,
and the upcoming MyISAM
options (and InnoDB)
- an [Operations] link, for Rename, Move, Copy, Maintenance (4 items),
Flush, Drop (maybe Insert
data from a file)
- a [Structure] link, to show Fields and Indexes, + the Add field
- (not sure about this) by default, users clicking on a table name would
see the familiar Browse,
Select, Insert, Empty, Drop + the 4 new links, at the top, but not the
structure. I find that most
of the time, I don't want to see the structure, I just want to type
queries, use bookmarks, and be
able to use the other main links.
- a right/top-frame for the links?
Please comment.
--
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9:46 a.m.
Jay,
Yes I like the idea of "primary" and "foreign".
"Jay F. Davis" a écrit :
Marc:
Since you say you will be working on the relation stuff, I have a suggestion:
Can we rename the field names in the relation table to something easier
to understand? Source and Destination don't work for me. How about
Primary and Foreign? That is:
pri_table
pri_field
for_table
for_field
or pkey_*, fkey_*
Or something like this.
What do others think?
Jay
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002, Marc Delisle <DelislMa(a)CollegeSherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
>Hi devs,
>
>Let's discuss the game plan for 2.3.0.
>
>- Merge the patches currently from the tracker
>
>- Merge/code the new db-based config
>
>- code some new features (I will be working on MyISAM options, and InnoDB
>support, + the Relation
>stuff
>
>- interface: it's about time we split the pages: db_detail and
>tbl_properties.
>
>
>Suggestions for the tbl_properties split
>----------------------------------------
>- generally, we move large sections of tbl_properties to seperate pages
>
>- an [Export] link at the top, calling a page with the "view dump" dialog
>
>- an [Attributes] link, for Alter table order by, Comments, Table type,
>and the upcoming MyISAM
>options (and InnoDB)
>
>- an [Operations] link, for Rename, Move, Copy, Maintenance (4 items),
>Flush, Drop (maybe Insert
>data from a file)
>
>- a [Structure] link, to show Fields and Indexes, + the Add field
>
>- (not sure about this) by default, users clicking on a table name would
>see the familiar Browse,
>Select, Insert, Empty, Drop + the 4 new links, at the top, but not the
>structure. I find that most
>of the time, I don't want to see the structure, I just want to type
>queries, use bookmarks, and be
>able to use the other main links.
>
>- a right/top-frame for the links?
>
>Please comment.
>
>--
>Marc Delisle
>
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>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpmyadmin-devel
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Marc Delisle
26 Apr
26 Apr
6:56 a.m.
Done.
master_table
master_field
foreign_table
foreign_field
"Jay F. Davis" a écrit :
Marc:
Since you say you will be working on the relation stuff, I have a suggestion:
Can we rename the field names in the relation table to something easier
to understand? Source and Destination don't work for me. How about
Primary and Foreign? That is:
pri_table
pri_field
for_table
for_field
or pkey_*, fkey_*
Or something like this.
What do others think?
--
Marc Delisle
7:51 a.m.
New subject: [Phpmyadmin-devel] Re: 2.3.0 roadmap discussion
Marc,
Maybe you should write some documentation about how to convert an old
relation table to the new format.
Alexander
28 Apr
28 Apr
2:15 a.m.
New subject: [Phpmyadmin-devel] 2.3.0 tbl_properties split
Marc Delisle a écrit :
- interface: it's about time we split the pages:
db_detail and tbl_properties.
Suggestions for the tbl_properties split
----------------------------------------
- generally, we move large sections of tbl_properties to seperate pages
- an [Export] link at the top, calling a page with the "view dump" dialog
Done.
- an [Attributes] link, for Alter table order by, Comments, Table type, and the upcoming
MyISAM
options (and InnoDB)
Well, "Alter table order by" needs the field list, so probably will stay on the
first page.
Still looking for a better word instead of [Attributes].
- an [Operations] link, for Rename, Move, Copy, Maintenance (4 items), Flush, Drop (maybe
Insert
data from a file)
Done (Insert data from a file: I need your opinion).
- a [Structure] link, to show Fields and Indexes, + the Add field
- (not sure about this) by default, users clicking on a table name would see the familiar
Browse,
Select, Insert, Empty, Drop + the 4 new links, at the top, but not the structure. I find
that most
of the time, I don't want to see the structure, I just want to type queries, use
bookmarks, and be
able to use the other main links.
Opinion about not seeing by default the structure?
Marc
2:50 a.m.
New subject: [Phpmyadmin-devel] 2.3.0 tbl_properties split
At 08:14 28.04.2002 -0400, you wrote:
Marc Delisle a écrit :
I like that idea coz it always takes some time ( about 3-8 sec) to show the
whole structure for my tables ( at least for the big once with lot of
fields) and i never need that too.
same for db_details if i select a database ( im not sure, but i think there
is a config setting for that ... as for nearly everything *G* .. getting to
that later on in the text)
One more thing about "...adding additional config setting ..." Im not
sure how you guys feel but i think every one more configurable item ( via
config file) is adding to the confusion at least for standard
users. shoud'nt PMA be an easy to use tool for everybody !? or should it
be a high-configurable Tools that might be able to fit every bodies need -
i think most user will not find the config entry because they just use the
tool but do not know all that behin-the-sciene things one would need to
know about all that nice switches .. !?!? Ok the best would be a
Web-Interface to
set/select all the things .. but that would lead into an PMA owned
Database/Table to store the values ... hmm
and one more think every new switch for a new fantastic feature ( or is it
a bug ... *G* ...) is also adding to the complexity of the code even now a
lot of code is just there to check all of the switches, settings ....
greetz
Thomas
- interface: it's about time we split the
pages: db_detail and
tbl_properties.
Suggestions for the tbl_properties split
----------------------------------------
- generally, we move large sections of tbl_properties to seperate pages
- an [Export] link at the top, calling a page with the "view dump" dialog
Done.
- an [Attributes] link, for Alter table order by, Comments, Table type,
and the
upcoming MyISAM
options (and InnoDB)
Well, "Alter table order by" needs the field list, so probably will stay
on the first page.
Still looking for a better word instead of [Attributes].
- an [Operations] link, for Rename, Move, Copy, Maintenance (4 items),
Flush,
Drop (maybe Insert
data from a file)
Done (Insert data from a file: I need your opinion).
- a [Structure] link, to show Fields and Indexes, + the Add field
- (not sure about this) by default, users clicking on a table name
would see the
familiar Browse,
Select, Insert, Empty, Drop + the 4 new links,
at the top, but not the
structure. I find that most
of the time, I don't want to see the
structure, I just want to type
queries, use bookmarks, and be
able to use the other main links.
Opinion about not seeing by default the structure? Marc
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29 Apr
2:53 a.m.
New subject: [Phpmyadmin-devel] 2.3.0 tbl_properties split
"Thomas Bähr [Office]" a écrit :
At 08:14 28.04.2002 -0400, you wrote:
It is also my opinion, even if I think we would upset phpMyAdmin users that expect to see
the
structure.
But I think that a small click on a [Structure] link is easily done.
So there could be a [Main] page with:
- the links :)
- the Query box
- the bookmark stuff
- "Insert from a textfile". (?)
--
Marc Delisle
Opinion about not seeing by default the structure?
I like that idea coz it always takes some time ( about 3-8 sec) to show the
whole structure for my tables ( at least for the big once with lot of
fields) and i never need that too.
same for db_details if i select a database ( im not sure, but i think there
is a config setting for that ... as for nearly everything *G* .. getting to
that later on in the text)
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