13 May
2007
13 May
'07
3:48 p.m.
Hi,
I know that we have some (old) themes named WinXP-something, but here is
a case I want to discuss about.
We got a proposition for 2 themes and their company name is part of the
theme name.
I don't mind giving proper credits on the themes downloads page,
including company name, but using the company name as theme name seems
excessive to me.
Marc
14 May
14 May
3:21 a.m.
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi,
I know that we have some (old) themes named WinXP-something, but here is
a case I want to discuss about.
We got a proposition for 2 themes and their company name is part of the
theme name.
I don't mind giving proper credits on the themes downloads page,
including company name, but using the company name as theme name seems
excessive to me.
i don't know ...
what names in specific?
would you care if add a theme called
"Cybot's Orange Den"
"Sebastian Mendel's Scalable"
or is it just caused by the fact that there is a commerical company behind
the theme name?
i think having a name behind/in a theme will also help to keep this theme
up-to-date - by the name-holder
--
Sebastian Mendel
www.sebastianmendel.de
4:50 a.m.
On Monday 14 May 2007 09:21, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
would you care if add a theme called
"Cybot's Orange Den"
"Sebastian Mendel's Scalable"
or is it just caused by the fact that there is a commerical company behind
the theme name?
i think having a name behind/in a theme will also help to keep this theme
up-to-date - by the name-holder
But it would create a strange suggestion if the theme is modified by someone
else than the name-holder. Calling it "Sebastian Mendel's Scalable" indeed
implies some kind of "ownership" of the theme, while the theme is open source
and might be heavily modified by other developers afterwards up until a point
that it's not even recognisable. I'd keep theme names generic in any case, be
it a company name or individual.
Thijs
5:07 a.m.
Thijs Kinkhorst schrieb:
On Monday 14 May 2007 09:21, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
yes, of course, like any open source software, but that's up to the original
author - or any following author who can name his theme as he wants, even if
based on another theme
would you care if add a theme called
"Cybot's Orange Den"
"Sebastian Mendel's Scalable"
or is it just caused by the fact that there is a commerical company behind
the theme name?
i think having a name behind/in a theme will also help to keep this theme
up-to-date - by the name-holder
But it would create a strange suggestion if the theme is modified by someone
else than the name-holder. Calling it "Sebastian Mendel's Scalable" indeed
implies some kind of "ownership" of the theme, while the theme is open source
and might be heavily modified by other developers afterwards up until a point
that it's not even recognisable. I'd keep theme names generic in any case, be
it a company name or individual.
i think it is like with any other open source software - the author can name
his piece like he wants - or do you think it is not 'allowed' for eZ to name
his software eZ..., or what about Zend and his zend-libararies?
we also include tcpdf, what do you think means 'tc'?
whole PMA is dedicated to 'MySQL' ...
and i really see ne sense in 'forcing' authors to specific theme names ...
--
Sebastian Mendel
www.sebastianmendel.de
5:19 a.m.
On Monday 14 May 2007 11:07, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
i think it is like with any other open source software
- the author can
name his piece like he wants - or do you think it is not 'allowed' for eZ
to name his software eZ..., or what about Zend and his zend-libararies?
You are indeed free to do so if you distribute it yourself, but the question
was whether phpmyadmin should discourage such naming when distributing
other's themes.
Thijs
5:25 a.m.
Thijs Kinkhorst schrieb:
On Monday 14 May 2007 11:07, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
yes, and by this we 'force' the author to use names we 'aprove' ... this
is
not what i would call free or open ...
--
Sebastian Mendel
www.sebastianmendel.de
i think it is like with any other open source
software - the author can
name his piece like he wants - or do you think it is not 'allowed' for eZ
to name his software eZ..., or what about Zend and his zend-libararies?
You are indeed free to do so if you distribute it yourself, but the question
was whether phpmyadmin should discourage such naming when distributing
other's themes.
5:28 a.m.
On Monday 14 May 2007 11:25, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
yes, and by this we 'force' the author to use
names we 'aprove' ... this is
not what i would call free or open ...
Freedom goes both ways: the author is free to name is theme how he wants,
phpmyadmin is free to decide what they think is desirable about naming
conventions, especially if it is phpmyadmin that is doing the "work" of
distributing it.
Thijs
7:11 a.m.
Thijs Kinkhorst schrieb:
On Monday 14 May 2007 11:25, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
yes, and i think phpMyAdmin should give the authors the freedom to name they
themes as they want.
but i still do not know about what names we are talking
yes, and by this we 'force' the author to
use names we 'aprove' ... this is
not what i would call free or open ...
Freedom goes both ways: the author is free to name is theme how he wants,
phpmyadmin is free to decide what they think is desirable about naming
conventions, especially if it is phpmyadmin that is doing the "work" of
distributing it. I'd keep theme names generic in any case
how generic?
Blue_Orange?
a second blue orange themes should be called
Blue_Orange_Other_Icons
a third blue orange themes should be called
Blue_Orange_Other_Icons_and_smaller_text
...
i don't think 'generic' is always a good choice for themes ...
i do not know other software that have restrictions on theme names ...
--
Sebastian Mendel
www.sebastianmendel.de
7:57 a.m.
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Thijs Kinkhorst schrieb:
We got these submissions:
$theme_name = 'MySQL SynergyMX.com';
and
/* Theme by Pixeline (http://www.pixeline.be) */
$theme_name = 'Pixeline';
See in the Themes tracker.
On Monday 14 May 2007 11:25, Sebastian Mendel
wrote:
yes, and i think phpMyAdmin should give the authors the freedom to name they
themes as they want.
but i still do not know about what names we are talking yes, and by this we 'force' the author to
use names we 'aprove' ... this is
not what i would call free or open ...
Freedom goes both ways: the author is free
to name is theme how he wants,
phpmyadmin is free to decide what they think is desirable about naming
conventions, especially if it is phpmyadmin that is doing the "work" of
distributing it. I'd keep theme names generic in any case
how generic?
Blue_Orange?
a second blue orange themes should be called
Blue_Orange_Other_Icons
a third blue orange themes should be called
Blue_Orange_Other_Icons_and_smaller_text
...
i don't think 'generic' is always a good choice for themes ...
i do not know other software that have restrictions on theme names ...
8:17 a.m.
Hi
On Mon, 14 May 2007 07:57:11 -0400
Marc Delisle <Marc.Delisle(a)cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
We got these submissions:
$theme_name = 'MySQL SynergyMX.com';
and
/* Theme by Pixeline (http://www.pixeline.be) */
$theme_name = 'Pixeline';
See in the Themes tracker.
I think it's okay to use those names. The only thing I'm not sure about
is MySQL in theme name and I don't know it's legal background.
--
Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com
8:26 a.m.
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi
On Mon, 14 May 2007 07:57:11 -0400
Marc Delisle <Marc.Delisle(a)cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
I am going to ask their Trademark departement. Stay tuned.
Marc
We got these submissions:
$theme_name = 'MySQL SynergyMX.com';
and
/* Theme by Pixeline (http://www.pixeline.be) */
$theme_name = 'Pixeline';
See in the Themes tracker.
I think it's okay to use those names. The only thing I'm not sure about
is MySQL in theme name and I don't know it's legal background.
16 May
16 May
11:38 a.m.
Marc Delisle a écrit :
Michal Čihař a écrit :
The response from MySQL AB it that they suggest to remove the "mysql"
part from the theme name, to avoid any confusion for users about this
theme being provided by MySQL AB.
Marc
Hi
On Mon, 14 May 2007 07:57:11 -0400
Marc Delisle <Marc.Delisle(a)cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
I am going to ask their Trademark departement. Stay tuned.
Marc We got these submissions:
$theme_name = 'MySQL SynergyMX.com';
and
/* Theme by Pixeline (http://www.pixeline.be) */
$theme_name = 'Pixeline';
See in the Themes tracker.
I think it's okay to use those names. The only
thing I'm not sure about
is MySQL in theme name and I don't know it's legal background.
14 May
14 May
8:35 a.m.
Michal Čihař schrieb:
Hi
On Mon, 14 May 2007 07:57:11 -0400
Marc Delisle <Marc.Delisle(a)cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
me too
--
Sebastian Mendel
www.sebastianmendel.de
We got these submissions:
$theme_name = 'MySQL SynergyMX.com';
and
/* Theme by Pixeline (http://www.pixeline.be) */
$theme_name = 'Pixeline';
See in the Themes tracker.
I think it's okay to use those names. The only thing I'm not sure about
is MySQL in theme name and I don't know it's legal background.
17 May
17 May
8:34 a.m.
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi
On Mon, 14 May 2007 07:57:11 -0400
Marc Delisle <Marc.Delisle(a)cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
I suggested to the SynergyMX guy to use "dolphin" instead of "mysql",
he
agreed and came back with "SynergyDolphin" so I guess that we'll have
two new themes:
Pixeline
SynergyDolphin
We got these submissions:
$theme_name = 'MySQL SynergyMX.com';
and
/* Theme by Pixeline (http://www.pixeline.be) */
$theme_name = 'Pixeline';
See in the Themes tracker.
I think it's okay to use those names. The only thing I'm not sure about
is MySQL in theme name and I don't know it's legal background. 
17 May
17 May
8:28 a.m.
Michael Keck a écrit :
Hi,
and if we rename such themes to luna?
Luna is a synonym for M$ XP styles.
We could but these themes are unmaintained at the moment, I was thinking
to remove them from the list of themes on phpmyadmin.net.
Regards
Michael
--- Original Message ---
Mail from: Marc Delisle
Date: 13.05.2007 21:48
> Hi,
>
> I know that we have some (old) themes named WinXP-something, but here is
> a case I want to discuss about.
>
> We got a proposition for 2 themes and their company name is part of the
> theme name.
>
> I don't mind giving proper credits on the themes downloads page,
> including company name, but using the company name as theme name seems
> excessive to me.
>
> Marc
>
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