Hi! How about the term 'External'? Hm, I know of many people who've gotten used to those tabs -- including me and all people whom I instruct usage on phpMyAdmin. Otherwise I would like to see the insert-Link in the 'Insert' tab. Second chocice for me would be the 'Operations' tab. Regards, Garvin.

Hi! True...How about "Files" then? :-) I know they are a waste, but many users of phpMyAdmin like the non-cluttered "main page" ('tbl_properties_structure') view, so that's where they use the "big alerting" labels. As I think about it, they mainly use the 'empty' button because most novice users won't drop a DB that often. Anyways, it might just be personal preference. Funny thing, I never noticed it there. :) Garvin.

Michal Cihar wrote: From the numerous messages we get on the forums, users don't want to think, they just want to see Import and Export! They see Dump, they don't understand. Marc

Olivier M. wrote: I would prefer "Insert" -> "Insert/Import", and move the link "Insert data..." on the Insert/Import page. Not sure about this. Ok.

Hi! Even though something inside myself screams against using a popupwindow and JS-only features, I get to like the idea. But I think this is technically hard to get to work. I think the feature would make only sense if the window could hover the whole time on screen and will get updated with every query, leaving a query-history (which I personally would love to have implemented). And there's the problem, without a session management you can't get the variable transmission really to work. Because of the size of a query, you have to do it via POST. You can't redirect form-data from within a popup to the parent page. So you have to submit to the popup, which then remotely controls a hidden form in the left frame (by using opener.form.hiddenarea.value = $_POST['sql']) and then remotely submitting that form inside the left frame. We could, however make this popup window configable and throw the SQL box in, if the popup is disabled. We would then have to have a new place for it, if the SQL-button get's canceld, or display that label only for JS-disabled browsers. Well...after I'm done with mime-stuff and if this is a way to go for others I could volunteer to implement the above mentioned approach. For SQL-history's sake! :) BTW, as I'm not into the project in general, what are/were your reasons against sessions, if any? Regards, Garvin.

Hi! Which means, current and future phpMyAdmin-release will always be targeted at a PHP3 audience as well? It's not that I think sessions are neccessary for phpMyAdmin, but at some point I think new features have to overwhelm the effort to stay backwards-compatible, also because PHP3 get's deprecated nowadays (simply because of security issues. I wouldn't want older exploitable php-versions running on my server). And even then, PHP3-users surely upgrade their phpMyAdmin releases as often as they upgrade their PHP3... ;-) Just a general thought, but I think currently there are other tasks to fulfill than implementing sessions. Regards, Garvin.

-----Original Message----- From: garvin_mailings(a)supergarv.de This won't be a JS-only feature. For non-JS users we could still offer an alternative SQL page. Well, lets leave the query history for now, that's making the whole thing to complicated :o) My idea was to make the query box available from every section of phpMyAdmin without having to leave the current page, e.g. if you view a query result and want to send a new query for which you need a couple of values from this result page. It should be technically possible: The user clicks on a link in the left frame that opens and focuses the popup window with the SQL query box. He enters his query and submits it directly to the main frame of phpMyAdmin instead of the popup window itself. Then, the result page would close the window automatically. -----Original Message----- From: Michal Cihar % % I don't like JS popups at all, they just make more opened % windows and so cause larger mess on my desktops... And I % don't se any need for one more window here. I'd normally agree with you, Michal, but I don't see your point here. This popup doesn't hurt anyone: You open it, type your query in, press submit and the windows closes itself... btw, you should give Opera a try, if you want to manage your browser windows in a better way :-) imho, the link should be displayed for both: - For JS-users, it opens the popup and - for non-JS-users, it opens the query box in the main frame. We won't stop you :o) First of all, the PHP3 compatibility. We try to keep the code PHP3 compatible as far as possible so we cannot take session support as a requirement of phpMyAdmin. But imho it'll be great to use sessions. This should lower down the traffic a lot. I even thought about a session-equivalent to the cookie authentification mode. The problem always was to pass the session ID between the scripts if it cannot be stored in a cookie and the transparent SID is disabled. But this should be much easier now because of Michal's great URL query generator code. So far, Alexander M. Turek <alex(a)bugfixes.info> +-----------------------------+ | The phpMyAdmin Project | | http://www.phpmyadmin.net | | rabus(a)users.sourceforge.net | +-----------------------------+ | [bugfixes.info] | | http://www.bugfixes.info | | rabus(a)bugfixes.info | +-----------------------------+