[Phpmyadmin-devel] Still supporting Netscape Version < 6
Hi all, I'm thinking about the "old" Netscape Comunicator (smaller Version 6.0 like 4.78 or so): should we still supporting this browser with our JS-Functions, CSS- Styles and interface? I think, many people are using a newer browser and/or better browser like Firefox 0.9.3, Mozilla or - of course - InternetExplorer, which is normaly included as Version 5.0 (and higher) on nearly every MS Windows. So, for better code-handling and many not supported W3C in Netscape < 6 (no CSS2, no DOM) it may easier for all developers, to stop supporting the old Netscape Browsers (as we done with PHP version < 4.3). The PMA version 2.5.7-pl1 works fine with the old Netscape, but the new PMA versions (> 2.6.0) not really. I've tested - and some things are not available or won't work correct (multi submit, showing/hiding content on export page, ...). Perhabs it would be a good thing to discuss about it, make some infos in documentation and/or building a browser check (which checks for NS 4 and gives the user a hint to download a newer browser ;) ). What are you thinking about this? Michael
Hi On Mon 25. 10. 2004 13:25, MK Keck wrote:
I'm thinking about the "old" Netscape Comunicator (smaller Version 6.0 like 4.78 or so): should we still supporting this browser with our JS-Functions, CSS- Styles and interface?
I think, many people are using a newer browser and/or better browser like Firefox 0.9.3, Mozilla or - of course - InternetExplorer, which is normaly included as Version 5.0 (and higher) on nearly every MS Windows. So, for better code-handling and many not supported W3C in Netscape < 6 (no CSS2, no DOM) it may easier for all developers, to stop supporting the old Netscape Browsers (as we done with PHP version < 4.3).
The PMA version 2.5.7-pl1 works fine with the old Netscape, but the new PMA versions (> 2.6.0) not really. I've tested - and some things are not available or won't work correct (multi submit, showing/hiding content on export page, ...).
Perhabs it would be a good thing to discuss about it, make some infos in documentation and/or building a browser check (which checks for NS 4 and gives the user a hint to download a newer browser ;) ).
What are you thinking about this?
I'd drop support for old browsers, however it should work without JS (avoid using only-JS solution when not necessary). Looking at my web stats, Netscape at any version is really minor browser (about 1 %, most of that goes to 7.x versions), while Firefox and Mozilla have quite large number of users. Also for MSIE 90% is for MSIE 6, so compatibility with older should not be so important. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
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On Mon 25. 10. 2004 13:25, MK Keck wrote:
I'm thinking about the "old" Netscape Comunicator (smaller Version 6.0 like 4.78 or so): should we still supporting this browser with our JS-Functions, CSS- Styles and interface?
I think, many people are using a newer browser and/or better browser like Firefox 0.9.3, Mozilla or - of course - InternetExplorer, which is normaly included as Version 5.0 (and higher) on nearly every MS Windows. So, for better code-handling and many not supported W3C in Netscape < 6 (no CSS2, no DOM) it may easier for all developers, to stop supporting the old Netscape Browsers (as we done with PHP version < 4.3).
The PMA version 2.5.7-pl1 works fine with the old Netscape, but the new PMA versions (> 2.6.0) not really. I've tested - and some things are not available or won't work correct (multi submit, showing/hiding content on export page, ...).
Perhabs it would be a good thing to discuss about it, make some infos in documentation and/or building a browser check (which checks for NS 4 and gives the user a hint to download a newer browser ;) ).
What are you thinking about this?
I'd drop support for old browsers, however it should work without JS (avoid using only-JS solution when not necessary). Looking at my web stats, Netscape at any version is really minor browser (about 1 %, most of that goes to 7.x versions), while Firefox and Mozilla have quite large number of users. Also for MSIE 90% is for MSIE 6, so compatibility with older should not be so important.
+1 for dropping support (and be clear about it in our requirements in Documentation.html). Should we go as far as outputting a big warning in case of version too low? I think yes. Marc
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, MK Keck wrote:
I'm thinking about the "old" Netscape Comunicator (smaller Version 6.0 like 4.78 or so): should we still supporting this browser with our JS-Functions, CSS- Styles and interface?
Yes, and I also vote for testing with IE 3.5 (the one that is bundled with Windows 95, 95a and 95b). Oh, does anyone still have access to a version of Opera 4? Honestly, I don't have time for supporting these relicts of internet history. :-) Regards, AMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfPin8c/ssWf/SMcRAtdIAKCbUgClVMT9JxQkNN/r4upOhpbVAgCgoaKK 8G5K+ulPJuZ8/8q8MV4eOTs= =LwiW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Considering the security problems in older browsers, people should be actively discouraged from using them.
participants (5)
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Alexander M. Turek -
Kenneth Porter -
Marc Delisle -
Michal Čihař -
MK Keck