[Phpmyadmin-devel] Roadmap? Feature plans for PMA 3.0?

[Marcel Tschopp]

> Hi
> 
> On 15.04.2004 16:40 +0200, Marcel Tschopp wrote:
> > Olivier wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 12:23 +0200, Garvin Hicking wrote:
> > > > - Get sessions to work, to get around POST/GETing the SQL query or the resultset
> > > > data from page to page. This is the reason for many timeout/browser problems
> > > > when editing records
> > > 
> > > using php-sessions, or a custom system, based for example on a mysql
> > > table?  
> > Yes, for session security I think it is better to use a mysql table to
> > store session data. And the user has not to use cookies...
> 
> Php sessions work also without cookies and you can store them anywhere
> you want (see session_set_save_handler). This is definitely less work
> than custom system and also probably more efficient.
I agree. You also have to use session_set_save_handler when using a db...
I agree also that it is less work, but using a db don't uses very much
work...

> 
> > > > - After that is all done, make PMA work on all OpenSource RDBMS ;)
> > > 
> > > This would be interesting, but would not be phpmyadmin anymore.
> > > This could be called 'PearDbAdmin', 'PhpDbAdmin', 'PhpAdodbAdmin',
> > > etc... :)
> > > 
> > > just googled a bit: phpdbadmin is already there, at least on SF:
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpdbadmin/, but: 
> > > "Development Status: 1 - Planning", and seems to be dead. Description
> > > is: "PHP-based (multiple-)database administration utility. Bringing
> > > multiple database servers and multiple databases together into one
> > > simple web-based interface. The power of PHP and the ease of the web.
> > > Currently planned to allow easy simultaneous access"
> > 
> > If we would make a code rewrite, it would be easy to make phpMyAdmin
> > (phpDBAdmin?) to work with postgresSQL. Other DBs could also be
> > integrated... :-)
> 
> I do not thing it is so easy. Each DB has specific features and to make
> one code support them all it would become much complicated.
But if you have a good oo-interface it is much simpler than now. And
pgSQL is pretty similar to mysql. And many people is using pgSQL instead
of mysql (i cannot understand the reason :-)

> 
> > > - get rid of all the HTML/javascript code from the PHP files
> > >   -> templates. would require quite a lot of work, so 
> > >      probably it would be good to start from scratch
> > +1 for templates. The coding would be much easier!
> 
> I agree.
> 
> > > - focus on php5/mysql 4.1+ only  (and of course continue to improve
> > >   PMA 2.x for php4 and mysql4)
> > My idea is also to make the code cleaner, eg. use an oo-style api (php5),
> > pear coding standarts, pear documentation standarts etc. 
> > 
> > > - newbie / expert mode  (newbie -> for example to let my mother update
> > >   her guestbook entries, expert -> for php devels, etc.)
> 
> Would be nice and it is much requested, but it's hard to determine what
> all should be in newbie mode => user should be able to select what he
> wants to see...
> 
> > > - use "standard" gettext/po files for translations 
> 
> Probably easier to maintain, but it increases number of php modules
> needed. How is it with gettext availability on windows?
> 
> > > - online interface for translations (put all the strings in a db, to
> > >   let the translators update their stuff directely)
> 
> Do you know any system that would allow this for po fileS?
> 
> > > - we currently have a low manpower. Any plan will have to take this into account,
> > > even though I agree that the release of 3.0 can attract some other developers
> > Agreed. Eventually we should write that on the phpmyadmin.net homepage?
> > 
> > > 
> > > - we have a very big features requests list; some day we will have to deal with it
> > Yes, but at the moment it is really hard to implement those features. As
> > I said above I would really like to make a complete rewrite for 3.0.0.
> > How do you think about that?
> > 
> > > 
> > > - bug fixing takes a lot of time (but I agree that a part of this could be avoided
> > > with some structural changes in the code)
> > Some structural changes or complete rewrite? :-)
> 
> Starting from scratch would help much. It is much work and I'm not sure
> whether it is necessary right now. But the session stuff is needed and
> it will trigger many changes, so it's probably good reason for complete
> rewrite. When talking about this, we should also thing about another
> version control, that would allow more distributed development (I'm
> talking about GNU Arch = tla).

Yes, it is very much work. But now we have a few good reasons for that:
- using a template system
- session stuff
- using php5
- cleaner code

> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 	Michal Čihař
> 	http://cihar.com
> 
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Kind regards
Marcel