[Phpmyadmin-devel] font sizes, css, IE quirks mode, scrollbars

Sebastian Mendel lists at sebastianmendel.de
Wed Jul 5 20:58:22 CEST 2006

Marc Delisle schrieb:
> Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
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>> Marc Delisle schrieb:
>>> Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
>>>> Hi,
>>>> at the moment phpMyAdmin forces IE into quirks mode, what makes most of
>>>> the current CSS problems
>>>> removing the XML declaration enables standard compliance mode for IE,
>>>> what makes IE to behave 'more' towards the CSS standards
>>>> but this also reveals the horizontal/vertical scrollbar bug
>>>> IE displays a unneeded/unwanted horizontal scroll bar as soon as it
>>>> display a vertical scrollbar, whether the horizontal scrollbar is
>>>> required or not.
>>>> there is no satisfying solution on the web (most just completely remove
>>>> the horizontal scroll bar or display them always)
>>>> i have figured out some possible solutions:
>>>> http://sebastianmendel.de/ie_scrollbar_bug/frameset.htm
>>>> the first two uses conditional CSS, the first seems to be make problems,
>>>> the second seems to work fine - just the space between window-border and
>>>> content is now between scrollbar and window and not between scrollbar
>>>> and content
>>>> the third is a (bot complete) JavaScript solution
>>> Sebastian,
>>> forcing a vertical scrollbar solves this IE horizontal scrollbar problem:
>>> html {
>>> 	overflow-y: scroll;
>>> }
>>> What do you think about it?
>> yes, this is also one of the mentioned solutions i do not prefer, so we
>> would have always a scrollbar in navigation frame!
>> of course this is not a problem at all, but
>>  - it looks ugly
>>  - it wastes spaces, especially in the navigation frame
>> but it is also a more 'cleaner' and smaller solution ... i don't know
> Yes it's cleaner, smaller, less code to maintain and understand... 
> especially since we are doing it as a bug workaround!

a bugfix for about more 50% of the people, just remember all this posts 
about font size - do you think no one will blame on us for the scrollbars?

but i have no problem with this - i don't use IE and both workarounds 
affect only IE

> Maybe we could force this vertical scrollbar only if we detect IE 6? I 
> say IE 6 because they might fix this for IE 7?

yes, with conditional css, like i have it on the above mentioned site 
too - check the different scrollbar positions in FF and IE


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