[Phpmyadmin-devel] Templates

Marc Delisle Marc.Delisle at cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca
Wed May 31 05:31:30 CEST 2006

Garvin Hicking a écrit :
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> Hi Arnor!
>> I doesn't get my vote, I don't think it's a good idea. Main reasons:
>> 1. The benefits are very small except for a very small group of people.
>> I actually don't see a single reason why this would be implemented,
>> things like color adjustments, switching logos and the like are already possible
>> and pretty easy. 2. The development of additional features would take a longer
>> time + the added complexity when debugging. 3. The switch to smarty templates
>> would take forever (duke nukem forever kind of forever) 4. Smarty, if not used
>> right, causes a lot of overhead, even when the templates get cached. Expect to
>> see at least 0.1-0.2 seconds added to the current load time.
> I think you are misunderstanding the reason for templates.
> Templares are there to separate logic from display. It's not about us being able
> to make different GUIs possible, it's about having clean PHP and clean HTML code
> without intermixture.
> About point 2, the development would take less time actually, because everything
> will be more modular. Only initial deployment of the templating engine will take
> time that would not happen if we were not using it. But as Sebastian already
> posted, it speeds up development for all future tasks and also adds clarity for
> developers.
> Point 3.: No, as Sebastian pointed out the migration can be done almost seamless
> and iterative.
> Point 4., there is no such thing as "seconds" in terms of perfomance measuring.
> It's all about percentage. Actually with pre-compiled PHP code, the only
> overhead that happens is variables being assigned to a central array and being
> read frmo there. I am quite sure that if we test it later on, the performance
> penalty will be below 5%. When using a PHP bytecode cache, performance might
> even increase.
> So, IMHO only point 4 is a valid concern, but this is IMHO neglectible because
> of the clear improvement in the code base, which scares of most developers
> today.
> Best regards,
> Garvin

are there some OSS projects of a scale comparable to phpMyAdmin, that 
are using Smarty?


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