[Phpmyadmin-devel] tcpdf and licensing
tyronx at gmail.com
Fri Dec 16 16:20:57 CET 2011
I find it very disconcerting to enforce a branding on the libraries
generated output. Isn't there any alternative pdf library that could
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Isaac Bennetch <bennetch at gmail.com> wrote:
> As you might recall from the PHPExcel licensing discussion
> (https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27884122) the
> Fedora people were investigating a possible licensing concern with the
> tcpdf library we bundle. Nothing has come of that with Fedora, but
> apparently the SuSE people have found something they don't like. The
> user ChrisWi asked about it in the IRC channel and provided a link to
> their bugtracker: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736698 --
> which requires a login, so he also provided the following text summary:
> ** begin paste **
> phpMyAdmin 126.96.36.199 (and presumably many earlier versions as well) contains
> tcpdf. This package claims to be LGPL-3.0+ licensed but contains the
> YOU CAN'T REMOVE ANY TCPDF COPYRIGHT NOTICE OR LINK FROM THE
> GENERATED PDF DOCUMENTS.
> As the LGPL-3.0+ incorporates by reference the GPL-3.0+, sections 7 and
> 10 of
> the GPL-3.0+ are relevant:
> All other non-permissive additional terms are considered "further
> restrictions" within the meaning of section 10. If the Program as you
> received it, or any part of it, contains a notice stating that it is
> governed by this License along with a term that is a further
> restriction, you may remove that term. If a license document contains
> a further restriction but permits relicensing or conveying under this
> License, you may add to a covered work material governed by the terms
> of that license document, provided that the further restriction does
> not survive such relicensing or conveying.
> Accordingly, it may be possible to point out to tcpdf upstream that the
> additional term that they apply may be viewed as a 'non-permissive
> and that you wish to exercise your rights under the GPL-3.0+ to remove that
> term from downstream distributions.
> If upstream are unwilling to engage in meaningful discussion or take the
> that the additional restriction is per se not part of the license
> because it is
> above the license and not incorporated into it, tcpdf should be dropped.
> ** end paste **
> Now again, as I'm sure you're aware, we're not responsible for making
> the distributions happy, but it's also in our best interest to try to
> resolve these things. Looks to my non-lawyer eye like this is something
> to push back on the tcpdf folks. Again, if I'm understanding correctly,
> the problem is the additional line added that "YOU CAN'T REMOVE ANY
> TCPDF COPYRIGHT NOTICE OR LINK FROM THE GENERATED PDF DOCUMENTS."
> Additionally, Google provides a lot of results of people questioning
> seems to be the best discussion. A discussion regarding the inclusion in
> Tiki Wiki
> went so far as to bring up the dubious legal position of putting a
> (tcpdf) copyright notice on the work of others.
> From the tcpdf forums link, it appears the author has no interest in
> changing this. To be fair to tcpdf, the only place I see his notice in
> the generated PDF is the "PDF Producer" field of the file properties. I
> think that's reasonable, but I think the part that concerns the SuSE
> folks is the having a non-OSI-endorsed clause appended to a license; if
> every project would do that it would be a nightmare to maintain. But
> that's just my interpretation.
> I've signed up for a Novell account, but I'm still not authorized to
> view the bug report directly. At the moment, aside from the gentleman in
> IRC, we have no line of communication to them or way of getting updates
> on their internal discussion.
> Thanks for your thoughts on this...
> Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011
> Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for
> developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it
> provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online.
> Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure
> Phpmyadmin-devel mailing list
> Phpmyadmin-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
More information about the Developers