[Phpmyadmin-devel] GSoC 2011:phpMyAdmin OOP
Gayan Hewa
devgayan at gmail.com
Tue Mar 29 18:04:29 CEST 2011
Hi Dieter,
I am interested in applying for GSOC , but i am also interested in
contributing in general. As phpmyadmin is a tool that we make use daily
and , its high time i give something back for the support rendered
trough this neat tool trough out the years.
But as u mentioned , for the GSOC i could look in to conversion of a
particular section or module into oop and later once this rush GSOC is
done , we (any one who likes to contribute) can get together and go full
scale with the solution for the conversion.
If I plan to choose a small part for the GSOC , say Converting the
User Management (Authentication) in to OOP will it be with sufficient
scope for GSOC ?
In that manner , gradually we will be one step closer for the overall goal.
Regards,
Gayan
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> 1. Re: GSoC 2011:phpMyAdmin OOP (Mateusz Lewandowski)
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> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:23:59 +0200
> From: Mateusz Lewandowski<gandalfml at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phpmyadmin-devel] GSoC 2011:phpMyAdmin OOP (Mateusz
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> Hi Gayan,
>
> In my opinion convert phpMyAdmin into MVC is great idea, but as Dieter wrote
>
>
>> There is no real plan of converting phpMyAdmin completely to MVC at
>> this moment.
>>
> But if you are interested into do it, I think that we can try, but not under
> GSoC and the best time to start I think will be after this project.
>
> Regards,
> Mateusz Lewandowski
>
>
> 2011/3/28 Dieter Adriaenssens<dieter.adriaenssens at gmail.com>
>
>> 2011/3/28 Gayan Hewa<devgayan at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> About converting , the Program Structure to MVC. I am currently working
>>> on few project with the Zend Framework. And one project which we
>>> manually created a framework that implements the pattern. As your
>>> suggestion , i think even i could give a hand , since its going to be
>>> something massive. We could simple address certain modules of the system.
>>>
>>> In terms of using the MVC pattern , how do u plan to do this ? Create
>>> one from scratch (I think this would be good) or adopt an existing
>>> Framework. In either case we can look in to this in more detail.
>> Hi Gayan,
>>
>> There is no real plan of converting phpMyAdmin completely to MVC at
>> this moment. (see other posts on this mailing list)
>>
>> Do you want to apply for a GSoC project? Or are you volunteering to
>> contribute to phpMyAdmin in general?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Dieter
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gayan
>>>
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> From: Dieter Adriaenssens<dieter.adriaenssens at gmail.com>
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> Hi Mateusz,
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> 2011/3/29 Mateusz Lewandowski<gandalfml at gmail.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I send my proposal before a while.
> I'll look at it later today.
>
>> I've already finished this task:
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2937379&group_id=23067&atid=377411,
>> I introduced changes only in one file and one function in
>> phpMyAdmin(libraries/sqlparser.lib.php PMA_SQP_formatHtml), I publish my git
>> repository with this file on
>> https://gitorious.org/gandalfml_phpmyadmin/gandalfml_phpmyadmin and put this
>> link into my proposal, should I put this link into some other places?
> I pulled your git repository, but you only added the file you changed,
> it is difficult to see the changes you did. Can you submit your patch
> to our patch tracker [0], as described in [1]? Or create your own
> fork, as described on our wiki [2], and apply your changes there.
>
> BTW : Don't add your name to the code in comments, the team decided
> that there should be no names in the source code. We use git to track
> who did changes.
>
> [0] http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=23067&atid=377410
> [1] http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/#faq7_3
> [2] http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/Git#Publishing_changes_for_merge
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> Kind regards,
>
> Dieter
>
>> Thank you,
>> Mateusz Lewandowski
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/27 Dieter Adriaenssens<dieter.adriaenssens at gmail.com>
>>> Hi Mateusz,
>>>
>>> 2011/3/27 Mateusz Lewandowski<gandalfml at gmail.com>:
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>> Now I can tell that I understand phpMyAdmin structure of code and
>>>> generally
>>>> how it works:) The first part of code that I'm going to turn into OOP is
>>>> libraries, there is a horrible disorder in this part, and when you wont
>>>> use
>>>> some of library function you must make a big effort to do it well. Also
>>>> scripts witch are used to initialised phpMyAdmin should be turn into
>>>> OOP.
>>>> Next step that I'm going to make is, as I wrote before, to separate out
>>>> the
>>>> logic of application and the view layer, when this will have been done,
>>>> there will be easy work to port the rest code into OOP. I'll have three
>>>> mounts only for this job, I think that it is possible to turn whole code
>>>> of
>>>> phpMyAdmin into OOP, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm going to try do it.
>>> Rewriting all the code of phpMyAdmin into OOP is beyond the scope of
>>> GSoC, for several reasons.
>>>
>>> Firstly, I don't think it can be done, even if you are a very
>>> efficient coder. Take into account that you should not just code
>>> during those 12 weeks, but also, test it and write documentation. Have
>>> you made a week to week plan yet of what you're going to do when?
>>>
>>> Secondly, you won't be the only GSoC student working on phpMyAdmin, so
>>> if you would manage to rewrite everything during those 12 weeks, it
>>> would be impossible to merge either yours or their work with the
>>> current codebase.
>>>
>>> For those reasons, it would be better to focus on a smaller part of
>>> the current code to turn into OOP. Like libraries, or init script,
>>> like you proposed. I'm looking forward to you proposal.
>>>
>>> About MVC, just keep it in mind as a general idea, but don't focus to
>>> much on it. I mean, if it is possible to create a class where you
>>> seperate html (or other output) from the logic, do it. F.e. in a table
>>> class, if there is a function to get all columns, return an array of
>>> columns and not an<ul> or<table> (or something else) list, so that
>>> this function can be used by several parts of phpMyAdmin, even the
>>> ones that don't output html. (Very simple example, I know, but I just
>>> wanted to make clear what I meant)
>>> But rewriting the entire codebase of phpMyAdmin, enforcing a
>>> seperation of View and Logic, is again out of scope for GSoC, for the
>>> same reasons as mentioned above.
>>>
>>>> I have a question in matter of patch that I should sent with my
>>>> proposal.
>>>> Here
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2937379&group_id=23067&atid=377411
>>>> is written that "Currently SQL pretty printer shows documentation
>>>> links",
>>>> where are this links? Maybe I overlook something, but can you explain me
>>>> about what exactly is this Feature Request?
>>> For further info, I propose to ask for it in comment on the feature
>>> request.
>>> As for the links : if you execute a query (select, show, insert, ...),
>>> it is shown on top of the screen after execution, showing the result
>>> of the query. f.e. when you look at the contents of a table. In case
>>> of a SELECT statement, the 'SELECT' keyword is a link to the MySQL
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Dieter
>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Mateusz Lewandowski
>>>>
>>>> 2011/3/26 Mateusz Lewandowski<gandalfml at gmail.com>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why I wrote that I am not going to implement ORM.
>>>>>
>>>>> I already downloaded the phpMyAdmin code from git repository and I
>>>>> started
>>>>> to learn how the phpMyadmin works. I had a look at the reported bugs,
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> try to fix some of them this weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way of MVC, my friend will apply for User interface cleanup and
>>>>> if
>>>>> her proposal turns out to be successful, it will be possible that we
>>>>> can
>>>>> separate out the code into controller and view layers together, so that
>>>>> work
>>>>> will be more effective.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Mateusz Lewandowski
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/3/26 Dieter Adriaenssens<dieter.adriaenssens at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Hi Mateusz,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/3/24 Mateusz Lewandowski<gandalfml at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>>> Thanks for the answer. I have big experience in design patterns. In
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> PHP
>>>>>>> project I use MCV model. I'll try to implement this model into
>>>>>>> phpMyAdmin,
>>>>>>> but in my opinion there is no point in full implementation of ORM,
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to limit this layer of MVC to minimum or just leave it. Do you think
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> this is a good idea?
>>>>>> By ORM, I guess you mean Object-relational mapping? I don't know much
>>>>>> about it, but after a quick glance, I think it would overcomplicate
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>> MVC is OK, the idea is to create classes that can be (re)used in
>>>>>> different parts of phpMyAdmin, anyway, the useroutput (View) should
>>>>>> not be in those general classes. Do you have an idea yet of what part
>>>>>> of phpMyAdmin you would turn into a class?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not going to look for another job for summer, so that I'll have
>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>> time for this project, 12 weeks and 40 hours per week are not a
>>>>>>> problem, and
>>>>>>> if needed, I'll be able to make more time for it.
>>>>>> GSoC is a summer job. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already looked into?application guide. I'll send my proposal on
>>>>>>> 28th
>>>>>>> March
>>>>>>> as it's written in timeline of GSoC.
>>>>>> Remember to submit a patch by then as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dieter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> Mateusz Lewandowski
>>>>>>> 2011/3/23 Dieter Adriaenssens<dieter.adriaenssens at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> 2011/3/22 Mateusz Lewandowski<gandalfml at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My name is Mateusz Lewandowski, I'm studying computer science and
>>>>>>>>> I'm on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> forth term of my studies. I have very strong background in OOP,
>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>> in C++ and Java, but I also have some experience in php(I finish
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> individual project which is written using Symfony framework an
>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> available on http://www.biuro-lewandowscy.pl/ ).
>>>>>>>>> I'm very interested in phpMyAdmin OOP? project and I'll get
>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> code of phpMyAdmin as soon as possible in this week. I think that
>>>>>>>>> porting
>>>>>>>>> existing code into object orientated structure?should be easy for
>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>> Hi Mateusz,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your interest in GSoC and in particular the OOP idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's nice to hear you have some experience with OOP and PHP, do you
>>>>>>>> have experience with Design Patterns? Please take into account we
>>>>>>>> expect you to make a proposal to turn a part of phpMyAdmin code
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> OOP. Refactoring of the code into a class, implementing it in the
>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>>>> of the codebase, testing and documenting should be done in about 12
>>>>>>>> weeks of 40 working hours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you take a look at the application guide [0] yet? We expect you
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> submit a patch before the end of the application period, to have an
>>>>>>>> idea of your skills and understanding of phpMyAdmin code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck with GSoC and with submitting your application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dieter Adriaenssens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [0] http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/GSoC_2011_Applicant_Guide
>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>> Mateusz Lewandowski
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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