[Phpmyadmin-devel] [RFC] cvs tree split & a few thoughts - please read

Olivier M. qmail at orion.8304.ch
Thu May 3 20:43:09 CEST 2001

Hello, bonsoir, 

A few thoughts about the further developpements of phpmyadmin,
and the current situation : please read and tell us what you 
think, thanks! I would also be glad if you could post a short
mail to this list, with a few words about you, your projects
and what you want to do for phpmyadmin.

* We are currently 8 developpers on this project: this is
quite a lot of people for such a "small" project (compared for 
example to mysql: 4 developpers, or other projects), so we'll
have to find a way to work together without breaking everything. 
After a discussion with Loic, here is what I would suggest:
there are now 2 trees in the cvs:

	* phpMyadmin		-> stable
	* phpMyadmin-devel	-> unstable

To the first tree, let's commit only bugfixes, small new
features and patches, and new translations. 

And the phpMyAdmin-devel tree is to be used to add real new 
stuff, like for example the phpMyBookmark patch
( http://www.phpindex.com/projets/projets_presentation.php3?n=1 )
or an improved mysql users-administration. 

All the fixes commited to the stable tree will also have to
be commited to the unstable tree, or the developpments will 
be lost, what is not our goal I guess.

* Let me remind you that this project is still an _*unofficial*_
continuation of Tobias' work, and it will remain like that until
we get some more feedback from him. phpMyAdmin is still *his*
project, and my goal by setting up phpmyadmin.sourceforge.net
was not to steal the project, but more to make the things move, to
get some feedback, and to be able to add my own patches (needed 
for a few of my customers). 

I had some mail-contacts with tobias last year (a few fixes and question),
but then blackout for at least 8 months (and no new version or
changes in the official project cvs). Then after about 10 tries 
and founding his new address, I finally got this message from tobias:

> Subject: Re: ping?  -   (phpmyadmin)
> From: "Tobias Ratschiller" <Tobias.Ratschiller at maguma.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:34:28 +0200
> To: "Olivier Mueller" <omueller at 8304.ch>
> Organization: Maguma AG
> Hey,
> looks interesting. I'll check out your sourceforge app over the 
> weekend; generally speaking, I don't have anything against spin 
> offs of open source projects. =)
> Unfortunately, these days I lack the time to do much on phpMyAdmin
> myself so your move is quite welcome.
> -Tobias

I answered this mail on the same day (so about 20 days ago), and I'm
now still waiting for feedback: seems he's very busy with his company :)
Voila, you know quite everything now!

It would be nice if he could join the team or give us the permission
to take over the project. An otherwise, we will probably have to 
choose another name, for example phpmyadmin-NG, or anything...

* There are about 50% french-speaking people in the devel team 
(from france, but also quebec and switzerland). But I think we should
continue to use english on the lists and forums, even with mistakes, 
otherwise it won't be nice for the people from usa, germany, and other
countries... D'accord ? :)

* Before working on major changes (on the phpmyadmin-devel tree!), 
please discuss it on this list before.

* Please describe your all of your changes in the Changelog
and the cvs commit messages (real changes, not every typo :)

* There is already quite a lot of feedback on the forums, patch and
suggestions pages : I'll try to give some answers and apply
some patches a few times a month, and you are really welcome
to do the same...

* Thanks for still reading :)  Finally a few words about myself:
I'm a 24 years old CS student in Z├╝rich, Switzerland. Languages:
fr, en, de and a very little bit of se (swedish). I'm having my
own ISP-company [ http://www.omnis.ch ], and work with linux
for about 6 years. Other open source projects: omail-admin 
(qmail-administration interfaec), omail-webmail (for MTA using
maildirs), and odns.  Only available photo is http://8304.ch/olivier.jpg :)

Voila, thanks for your attention, and I hope we will have fun
working on phpmyadmin :)


 Olivier Mueller - om at 8304.ch - PGPkeyID: 0E84D2EA - Switzerland
qmail projects: http://omail.omnis.ch  -  http://webmail.omnis.ch
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