[Phpmyadmin-devel] Hint for double-click (grid editing)

Dieter Adriaenssens dieter.adriaenssens at gmail.com
Tue Nov 13 17:14:40 CET 2012


2012/11/11 Marc Delisle <marc at infomarc.info>:
> Le 2012-11-09 12:15, Dieter Adriaenssens a écrit :
>> 2012/11/9 Marc Delisle <marc at infomarc.info>:
>>> Dieter Adriaenssens a écrit :
>>>> 2012/11/1 Marc Delisle <marc at infomarc.info>:
>>>>> Michal Čihař a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dne Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:13:27 -0700
>>>>>> Marc Delisle <marc at infomarc.info> napsal(a):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be annoying to display a hint on mouseover for all
>>>>>>> grid-editable cells.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To help 3.5.x users learn about the double-click (which is now the
>>>>>>> default action for grid editing in 4.0), we could display a hint when
>>>>>>> the user clicks on the data row (which has the effect of selecting the
>>>>>>> row, like the checkbox). However we must take care of displaying this
>>>>>>> hint just once (per session?).
>>>>>> I'd rather make some one help dialog, which will show help for all
>>>>>> manipulations with browse view (sorting, choosing columns, moving
>>>>>> columns, grid editing).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then we could show it in similar way github is offering Keyboard
>>>>>> shortcuts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/nijel/weblate/commits/master
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, what about removing the "select row on click" feature? Is this
>>>>>>> intuitive?
>>>>>> I think it pretty much collides with grid editing, so I'd be for
>>>>>> removing it.
>>>>> The "mark row on click" feature is now removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still need to make a decision about hints for double-click; expecting
>>>>> more feedback from developers.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the late reply.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a clear opinion yet on what would be the best way to
>>>> notify the user of the directive to change the gridediting behaviour.
>>>> Showing a tooltip every time you hover over a cell seems a bit too
>>>> much, showing it only once per session can be missed, of course. But
>>>> showing it more/longer can get anoying, so showing it just once seems
>>>> like the best way to do it.
>>>
>>> You mean once per session?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> I noticed that there was already a grid editing hint so I took another
> approach, see
> https://github.com/phpmyadmin/phpmyadmin/commit/8cad8c6b7bedf8a1e1955520dbacf73347827c34
>
> My rationale is that if someone tries to click for grid editing and she
> notices that it does not work, she'll try to use the Edit link and will
> see the hint.

Sounds good.

>>
>>>> I also like the idea of having a 'shortcuts' page, we can have both, I guess.
>
>



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Kind regards,

Dieter Adriaenssens




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