14 Feb
2011
14 Feb
'11
2:34 p.m.
Hi all
as the deadline for theme submission is over, we should create a survey
to choose the default theme.
As we have only three submissions, I propose to include all themes we
currently have for 3.4. Links to demo server and screenshots are
currently on the wiki:
http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/Themes_in_Contest
I've tried to setup survey on sf.net using LimeSurvey, but I failed:
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/17576
Anyway if you are developer, you should be able to ask for access to
LimeSurvey at
https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/features.php?group_id=23067
and go to survey preview to see it.
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14 Feb
14 Feb
3:11 p.m.
Hi,
Anyway if you are developer, you should be able to ask
for access to
LimeSurvey at
https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/features.php?group_id=23067
I believe this section is only available for project admins, not for
every developer.
and go to survey preview to see it.
There is a link to LimeSurvey for PMA : [0], but it lists no surveys,
probably because they are still in preview.
[0] https://sourceforge.net/apps/limesurvey/phpmyadmin/
Kind regards,
Dieter
3:45 p.m.
Dieter Adriaenssens a écrit :
Yes, this is because Michal got an error message when trying to activate
the survey.
Hi,
I confirm.
Anyway if you are developer, you should be able
to ask for access to
LimeSurvey at
https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/features.php?group_id=23067
I believe this section is only available for project admins, not for
every developer. and go to survey preview to see it.
There is a link to LimeSurvey for PMA : [0], but it lists no surveys,
probably because they are still in preview.
[0] https://sourceforge.net/apps/limesurvey/phpmyadmin/
Kind regards,
Dieter
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3:44 p.m.
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi all
as the deadline for theme submission is over, we should create a survey
to choose the default theme.
As we have only three submissions, I propose to include all themes we
currently have for 3.4. Links to demo server and screenshots are
currently on the wiki:
http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/Themes_in_Contest
I've tried to setup survey on sf.net using LimeSurvey, but I failed:
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/17576
You got a message "Attempt XSRF Detected!". I also get this message when
trying to do a mass update on a tracker.
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Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
4:07 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:44:28 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
You got a message "Attempt XSRF Detected!".
I also get this message when
trying to do a mass update on a tracker.
Hmm, looks like another sf.net sitewide breakage :-).
Anyway I'm trying to set up the survey here right now on
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com
The draft is publicly visible here:
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com/index.php?sid=72977&newtest=Y&lang=…
Please send me any comments to it, so that I can adjust the
questionnaire.
I'd like to finalize the questionnaire today or tomorrow and leave it
open till 28th February. I think almost two weeks are enough and end of
month looks like an easy to remember deadline.
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4:14 p.m.
2011/2/14 Michal Čihař <michal(a)cihar.com>om>:
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:44:28 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
Maybe the option 'more than two' can be added to the question of how
many themes should be included in the download kit?
You got a message "Attempt XSRF
Detected!". I also get this message when
trying to do a mass update on a tracker.
Hmm, looks like another sf.net sitewide breakage :-).
Anyway I'm trying to set up the survey here right now on
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com
The draft is publicly visible here:
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com/index.php?sid=72977&newtest=Y&lang=…
Please send me any comments to it, so that I can adjust the
questionnaire. I'd like to finalize the questionnaire today or
tomorrow and leave it
open till 28th February. I think almost two weeks are enough and end of
month looks like an easy to remember deadline.
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Dieter Adriaenssens
4:22 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:14:50 +0100
Dieter Adriaenssens <dieter.adriaenssens(a)gmail.com> napsal(a):
Maybe the option 'more than two' can be added
to the question of how
many themes should be included in the download kit?
I thought that including two is enough, each basically adds something
like 800 KiB to the size. But I'm open to change it.
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4:23 p.m.
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:14:50 +0100
Dieter Adriaenssens <dieter.adriaenssens(a)gmail.com> napsal(a):
I agree that two is the maximum (at least for our kits; of course,
distros can do what they want).
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Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
Maybe the option 'more than two' can be
added to the question of how
many themes should be included in the download kit?
I thought that including two is enough, each basically adds something
like 800 KiB to the size. But I'm open to change it.
4:17 p.m.
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:44:28 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
At the bottom of "Toba theme", there is a link to try it, but the other
themes do not have such link.
You got a message "Attempt XSRF
Detected!". I also get this message when
trying to do a mass update on a tracker.
Hmm, looks like another sf.net sitewide breakage :-).
Anyway I'm trying to set up the survey here right now on
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com
The draft is publicly visible here:
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com/index.php?sid=72977&newtest=Y&lang=…
Please send me any comments to it, so that I can adjust the
questionnaire.
I'd like to finalize the questionnaire today or tomorrow and leave it
open till 28th February. I think almost two weeks are enough and end of
month looks like an easy to remember deadline.
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Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
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4:20 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:17:20 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
At the bottom of "Toba theme", there is a
link to try it, but the other
themes do not have such link.
I guess you just hit in middle of my changes, all should have link to
try them in reaction to Dieter's comments.
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4:22 p.m.
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:17:20 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
The survey looks ok to me now :)
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http://infomarc.info
At the bottom of "Toba theme", there is
a link to try it, but the other
themes do not have such link.
I guess you just hit in middle of my changes, all should have link to
try them in reaction to Dieter's comments. 
5:01 p.m.
2011/2/14 Michal Čihař <michal(a)cihar.com>om>:
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:44:28 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
Is it possible to add some field for comments? Personally, I will
probably vote for pmahomme, but on some conditions: reducing headers
and some margins, making warnings and success message to be less
intensive.
--
Piotr Przybylski
You got a message "Attempt XSRF
Detected!". I also get this message when
trying to do a mass update on a tracker.
Hmm, looks like another sf.net sitewide breakage :-).
Anyway I'm trying to set up the survey here right now on
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com
The draft is publicly visible here:
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com/index.php?sid=72977&newtest=Y&lang=…
Please send me any comments to it, so that I can adjust the
questionnaire.
I'd like to finalize the questionnaire today or tomorrow and leave it
open till 28th February. I think almost two weeks are enough and end of
month looks like an easy to remember deadline.
5:37 p.m.
Piotr Przybylski a écrit :
Is it possible to add some field for comments?
Personally, I will
probably vote for pmahomme, but on some conditions: reducing headers
and some margins, making warnings and success message to be less
intensive.
This brings another question: do we vote on the "potential" of a theme
or for the theme as it was when the contest closed (yesterday)?
--
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
5:59 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:37:32 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
Piotr Przybylski a écrit :
Depends how you define potential :-).
The theme will evolve slightly after inclusion (eg. testing in some
browser will show some bugs). So if potential = current look - bugs,
then I'd definitely say yes.
I'm not sure about some bigger changes to theme look as it would make
it virtually different theme. It might be better for some users, but it
might as well be worse for some...
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Is it possible to add some field for comments?
Personally, I will
probably vote for pmahomme, but on some conditions: reducing headers
and some margins, making warnings and success message to be less
intensive.
This brings another question: do we vote on the "potential" of a theme
or for the theme as it was when the contest closed (yesterday)?
6:25 p.m.
2011/2/14 Michal Čihař <michal(a)cihar.com>om>:
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:37:32 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
I was thinking about some minor tweaking. Examples of changes that are
not minor but, in my opinion, would make some themes better are:
* pmahomme
- header sizes (h2) would look better with 1.2-1.4 em and bold ->
would take less space while making them stand out enough
- reduce paddings a bit in various places (page tabs, tables) to make
it more compact. Currently it may look good on large screens (1200 in
height and higher), but on my 1600x900 I would like to see more data
on screen: in default theme I can display 35 data rows, in pmahomme
only 17 fit on the screen
* toba
- change black lines around data cells to something lighter, currently
data in tables is difficult to read
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Piotr Przybylski
Piotr Przybylski a écrit :
Depends how you define potential :-).
The theme will evolve slightly after inclusion (eg. testing in some
browser will show some bugs). So if potential = current look - bugs,
then I'd definitely say yes.
I'm not sure about some bigger changes to theme look as it would make
it virtually different theme. It might be better for some users, but it
might as well be worse for some...
Is it possible to add some field for comments?
Personally, I will
probably vote for pmahomme, but on some conditions: reducing headers
and some margins, making warnings and success message to be less
intensive.
This brings another question: do we vote on the "potential" of a theme
or for the theme as it was when the contest closed (yesterday)?
15 Feb
15 Feb
12:56 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:25:01 +0100
Piotr Przybylski <piotr.prz(a)gmail.com> napsal(a):
I was thinking about some minor tweaking. Examples of
changes that are
not minor but, in my opinion, would make some themes better are:
The themes can definitely get some polishing. But the poll should be
about current state of the theme and possible improvements can be done
afterward.
* pmahomme
- header sizes (h2) would look better with 1.2-1.4 em and bold ->
would take less space while making them stand out enough
- reduce paddings a bit in various places (page tabs, tables) to make
it more compact. Currently it may look good on large screens (1200 in
height and higher), but on my 1600x900 I would like to see more data
on screen: in default theme I can display 35 data rows, in pmahomme
only 17 fit on the screen
I agree it is quite big and I wrote that as one of my first comment in
themes tracker. Anyway forwarded your comments to theme author.
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14 Feb
14 Feb
6:43 p.m.
2011/2/14 Michal Čihař <michal(a)cihar.com>om>:
Hi
I'm not sure about some bigger changes to theme look as it would make
it virtually different theme. It might be better for some users, but it
might as well be worse for some...
If people like the theme in general but would like some changes, they
can always make those changes and create their custom (derived) theme.
And maybe even submit it to the tracker. The themes are supposed to be
under GPL 2 (or compatible), so this is possible. ;)
Or contact the the original designer and merge their proposal with the
original theme...
Greets,
Dieter
5:55 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:01:43 +0100
Piotr Przybylski <piotr.prz(a)gmail.com> napsal(a):
Is it possible to add some field for comments?
Personally, I will
probably vote for pmahomme, but on some conditions: reducing headers
and some margins, making warnings and success message to be less
intensive.
We would definitely get lot of feedback this way, but I'm not sure if
we would ever get to single theme which would fit all.
So I prefer to give options only from existing themes.
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5:42 p.m.
On 2/14/2011 8:07 AM, Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:44:28 -0500
Marc Delisle<marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
Very nice, but any way to put the links to demo server above the picture
instead of below it? It's a small thing but I think makes it easier for
users to quickly see that the demo server is available...otherwise for
me the link just gets lost in the space between questions.
You got a message "Attempt XSRF
Detected!". I also get this message when
trying to do a mass update on a tracker.
Hmm, looks like another sf.net sitewide breakage :-).
Anyway I'm trying to set up the survey here right now on
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com
The draft is publicly visible here:
http://phpmyadmin.limequery.com/index.php?sid=72977&newtest=Y&lang=…
Please send me any comments to it, so that I can adjust the
questionnaire. I'd like to finalize the questionnaire today or
tomorrow and leave it
open till 28th February. I think almost two weeks are enough and end of
month looks like an easy to remember deadline.
Sounds good.
5:52 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:42:36 -0500
Isaac Bennetch <bennetch(a)gmail.com> napsal(a):
Very nice, but any way to put the links to demo server
above the picture
instead of below it? It's a small thing but I think makes it easier for
users to quickly see that the demo server is available...otherwise for
me the link just gets lost in the space between questions.
Good point, I've just adjusted it:
http://survey.phpmyadmin.net/index.php?sid=72977&lang=en
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3:59 p.m.
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi all
as the deadline for theme submission is over, we should create a survey
to choose the default theme.
As we have only three submissions, I propose to include all themes we
currently have for 3.4. Links to demo server and screenshots are
currently on the wiki:
http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/Themes_in_Contest
I've tried to setup survey on sf.net using LimeSurvey, but I failed:
We could
- wait for them to fix the problem
- set up a survey somewhere else
- my preference: publish in News and on phpmyadmin-users list the wiki
page you mention, a date limite for voting and ask people to email their
vote to contest(a)phpmyadmin.net
--
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
4:09 p.m.
2011/2/14 Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Michal Čihař a écrit :
I don't really have a preference, but I guess it will take some time
to manually process all replies, with the survey that goes
automatically.
About the survey that Michal made :
* Is it possible to skip at least one of the two start screens? I
mean, from a users point of view, they just have to click one time to
choose a theme (and possible 5 times on the next question), so having
to go through 2 screens first before answering the question will take
some time and might annoy the surveytaker.
* making the name of the theme + screenshot linkable to the actual
theme can be a bit confusing. I mean, when the surveytaker chooses a
theme and clicks on it to cast a vote, it might be confusing to be
sent to another screen. Maybe the link on the name+ screenshot can be
removed and a separate link that says 'demo', or 'try the theme' can
be added to each option?
Greets,
Dieter
Hi all
as the deadline for theme submission is over, we should create a survey
to choose the default theme.
As we have only three submissions, I propose to include all themes we
currently have for 3.4. Links to demo server and screenshots are
currently on the wiki:
http://wiki.phpmyadmin.net/pma/Themes_in_Contest
I've tried to setup survey on sf.net using LimeSurvey, but I failed:
We could
- wait for them to fix the problem
- set up a survey somewhere else
- my preference: publish in News and on phpmyadmin-users list the wiki
page you mention, a date limite for voting and ask people to email their
vote to contest(a)phpmyadmin.net --
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
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Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
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Phpmyadmin-devel mailing list
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Groetjes,
Dieter Adriaenssens
4:18 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:09:36 +0100
Dieter Adriaenssens <dieter.adriaenssens(a)gmail.com> napsal(a):
* Is it possible to skip at least one of the two start
screens? I
mean, from a users point of view, they just have to click one time to
choose a theme (and possible 5 times on the next question), so having
to go through 2 screens first before answering the question will take
some time and might annoy the surveytaker.
Already done on limequery.
* making the name of the theme + screenshot linkable
to the actual
theme can be a bit confusing. I mean, when the surveytaker chooses a
theme and clicks on it to cast a vote, it might be confusing to be
sent to another screen. Maybe the link on the name+ screenshot can be
removed and a separate link that says 'demo', or 'try the theme' can
be added to each option?
Good point, changed on limequery to this way.
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4:13 p.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:59:11 -0500
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
We could
- wait for them to fix the problem
Well I still did not like the look of the LimeSurvey installed on
sf.net and I have not found way to customize it.
- set up a survey somewhere else
That's what I've tried to do, see my other mail.
- my preference: publish in News and on
phpmyadmin-users list the wiki
page you mention, a date limite for voting and ask people to email their
vote to contest(a)phpmyadmin.net
I don't like manual mail processing and don't want to write
something what would automate parsing of user replies :-).
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5:52 p.m.
Hi
As not all list members are online, so I'd wait till tomorrow afternoon
and if no objections will appear, I'll activate the survey and announce
it.
The current (and hopefully last)[*] URL of the survey is:
http://survey.phpmyadmin.net/index.php?sid=72977&lang=en
[*]: After carefully re-reading limequery.com conditions, I've realized
that the service is free only up to 25 responses, what will most likely
not be enough for us, so I've set it up on my server.
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6:19 p.m.
On 2/14/2011 9:52 AM, Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
As not all list members are online, so I'd wait till tomorrow afternoon
and if no objections will appear, I'll activate the survey and announce
it.
The current (and hopefully last)[*] URL of the survey is:
http://survey.phpmyadmin.net/index.php?sid=72977&lang=en
[*]: After carefully re-reading limequery.com conditions, I've realized
that the service is free only up to 25 responses, what will most likely
not be enough for us, so I've set it up on my server.
This all sounds excellent. Thanks!
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