Hello, bonsoir, A few thoughts about the further developpements of phpmyadmin, and the current situation : please read and tell us what you think, thanks! I would also be glad if you could post a short mail to this list, with a few words about you, your projects and what you want to do for phpmyadmin. * We are currently 8 developpers on this project: this is quite a lot of people for such a "small" project (compared for example to mysql: 4 developpers, or other projects), so we'll have to find a way to work together without breaking everything. After a discussion with Loic, here is what I would suggest: there are now 2 trees in the cvs: * phpMyadmin -> stable * phpMyadmin-devel -> unstable To the first tree, let's commit only bugfixes, small new features and patches, and new translations. And the phpMyAdmin-devel tree is to be used to add real new stuff, like for example the phpMyBookmark patch ( http://www.phpindex.com/projets/projets_presentation.php3?n=1 ) or an improved mysql users-administration. All the fixes commited to the stable tree will also have to be commited to the unstable tree, or the developpments will be lost, what is not our goal I guess. * Let me remind you that this project is still an _*unofficial*_ continuation of Tobias' work, and it will remain like that until we get some more feedback from him. phpMyAdmin is still *his* project, and my goal by setting up phpmyadmin.sourceforge.net was not to steal the project, but more to make the things move, to get some feedback, and to be able to add my own patches (needed for a few of my customers). I had some mail-contacts with tobias last year (a few fixes and question), but then blackout for at least 8 months (and no new version or changes in the official project cvs). Then after about 10 tries and founding his new address, I finally got this message from tobias: I answered this mail on the same day (so about 20 days ago), and I'm now still waiting for feedback: seems he's very busy with his company :) Voila, you know quite everything now! It would be nice if he could join the team or give us the permission to take over the project. An otherwise, we will probably have to choose another name, for example phpmyadmin-NG, or anything... * There are about 50% french-speaking people in the devel team (from france, but also quebec and switzerland). But I think we should continue to use english on the lists and forums, even with mistakes, otherwise it won't be nice for the people from usa, germany, and other countries... D'accord ? :) * Before working on major changes (on the phpmyadmin-devel tree!), please discuss it on this list before. * Please describe your all of your changes in the Changelog and the cvs commit messages (real changes, not every typo :) * There is already quite a lot of feedback on the forums, patch and suggestions pages : I'll try to give some answers and apply some patches a few times a month, and you are really welcome to do the same... * Thanks for still reading :) Finally a few words about myself: I'm a 24 years old CS student in Zürich, Switzerland. Languages: fr, en, de and a very little bit of se (swedish). I'm having my own ISP-company [ http://www.omnis.ch ], and work with linux for about 6 years. Other open source projects: omail-admin (qmail-administration interfaec), omail-webmail (for MTA using maildirs), and odns. Only available photo is http://8304.ch/olivier.jpg :) Voila, thanks for your attention, and I hope we will have fun working on phpmyadmin :) Regards, Olivier -- _________________________________________________________________ Olivier Mueller - om(a)8304.ch - PGPkeyID: 0E84D2EA - Switzerland qmail projects: http://omail.omnis.ch - http://webmail.omnis.ch