Hello, bonsoir,
A few thoughts about the further developpements of phpmyadmin, and the current situation : please read and tell us what you think, thanks! I would also be glad if you could post a short mail to this list, with a few words about you, your projects and what you want to do for phpmyadmin.
* We are currently 8 developpers on this project: this is quite a lot of people for such a "small" project (compared for example to mysql: 4 developpers, or other projects), so we'll have to find a way to work together without breaking everything. After a discussion with Loic, here is what I would suggest: there are now 2 trees in the cvs:
* phpMyadmin -> stable * phpMyadmin-devel -> unstable
To the first tree, let's commit only bugfixes, small new features and patches, and new translations.
And the phpMyAdmin-devel tree is to be used to add real new stuff, like for example the phpMyBookmark patch ( http://www.phpindex.com/projets/projets_presentation.php3?n=1 ) or an improved mysql users-administration.
All the fixes commited to the stable tree will also have to be commited to the unstable tree, or the developpments will be lost, what is not our goal I guess.
* Let me remind you that this project is still an _*unofficial*_ continuation of Tobias' work, and it will remain like that until we get some more feedback from him. phpMyAdmin is still *his* project, and my goal by setting up phpmyadmin.sourceforge.net was not to steal the project, but more to make the things move, to get some feedback, and to be able to add my own patches (needed for a few of my customers).
I had some mail-contacts with tobias last year (a few fixes and question), but then blackout for at least 8 months (and no new version or changes in the official project cvs). Then after about 10 tries and founding his new address, I finally got this message from tobias:
Subject: Re: ping? - (phpmyadmin) From: "Tobias Ratschiller" Tobias.Ratschiller@maguma.com Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:34:28 +0200 To: "Olivier Mueller" omueller@8304.ch Organization: Maguma AG
Hey,
looks interesting. I'll check out your sourceforge app over the weekend; generally speaking, I don't have anything against spin offs of open source projects. =) Unfortunately, these days I lack the time to do much on phpMyAdmin myself so your move is quite welcome.
-Tobias
I answered this mail on the same day (so about 20 days ago), and I'm now still waiting for feedback: seems he's very busy with his company :) Voila, you know quite everything now!
It would be nice if he could join the team or give us the permission to take over the project. An otherwise, we will probably have to choose another name, for example phpmyadmin-NG, or anything...
* There are about 50% french-speaking people in the devel team (from france, but also quebec and switzerland). But I think we should continue to use english on the lists and forums, even with mistakes, otherwise it won't be nice for the people from usa, germany, and other countries... D'accord ? :)
* Before working on major changes (on the phpmyadmin-devel tree!), please discuss it on this list before.
* Please describe your all of your changes in the Changelog and the cvs commit messages (real changes, not every typo :)
* There is already quite a lot of feedback on the forums, patch and suggestions pages : I'll try to give some answers and apply some patches a few times a month, and you are really welcome to do the same...
* Thanks for still reading :) Finally a few words about myself: I'm a 24 years old CS student in Zürich, Switzerland. Languages: fr, en, de and a very little bit of se (swedish). I'm having my own ISP-company [ http://www.omnis.ch ], and work with linux for about 6 years. Other open source projects: omail-admin (qmail-administration interfaec), omail-webmail (for MTA using maildirs), and odns. Only available photo is http://8304.ch/olivier.jpg :)
Voila, thanks for your attention, and I hope we will have fun working on phpmyadmin :)
Regards, Olivier
[trimmed] About Me: I'm an 18 year old high school senior at Burnaby North Secondary School in BC, Canada. I moved here two years ago from Durban, KZN, South Africa. languages: en-za, af, a little zu, a little es and a touch of latin. I've been using linux (and a bit of QNX) on and off for about 4 years now. I program/code in Pascal, C/C++, HTML, PHP, SQL, and a little bit of Basic. Other projects i'm involved in: phpDNS (some competition for oDNS, still major work-in-progress, started because I host DNS for a few friends), Free/BE-Voodoo (it was the start of a VBE/AF driver for 3Dfx Voodoo3/Banshee cards, but it hit some legal snares, and there is no more development underway or planned for the moment). I have also put a lot of work into my school webpage, as I did all the programming behind it, and i'm hosting it for my school at the moment, the graphic design was done by somebody else, but the real stuff uses PHP & MySQL to provide the functionality & content (http://bnss.orbis-terrarum.net/). There are a few photos of me available from http://photo.orbis-terrarum.net/. My main webpage is at http://www.orbis-terrarum.net.
MySQL-devel: I would propose that we keep the single working CVS tree of the main code. And have all our big changes development code existing in patches only until they are ready to merge.
Could somebody please tell me what phpMyBookmark is in english?
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Hello :)
Could somebody please tell me what phpMyBookmark is in english?
Ok. phpMyBookmark is a patch for phpMyAdmin. With this patch, a user can bookmark some queries. It's very simple to use.
The user enters his query. Phpmyadmin returns the result. So you can store this query (not the result) in a special table to use it again.
I hope it's clear ? :)
Regards,
Armel.
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:50:32PM +0200, Armel FAUVEAU wrote:
The user enters his query. Phpmyadmin returns the result. So you can store this query (not the result) in a special table to use it again.
I hope it's clear ? :)
A demo, a demo, we want a demo, *please* ! (yes, I read the forum :) (or apply the patch to the phpmyadmin-devel tree :)
Olivier
The user enters his query. Phpmyadmin returns the result. So you can store this query (not the result) in a special table to use
it
again.
I hope it's clear ? :)
A demo, a demo, we want a demo, *please* ! (yes, I read the forum :) (or apply the patch to the phpmyadmin-devel tree :)
A demo :) http://www.globalis-hosting.com/~armel/phpmyadmin/
login : test pass : test
You can see 2 tables : dmoz and testbookmark.
If you select dmoz, you can see the standard textarea with "Run SQL query/queries on database dmoz". And...a news pulldown menu with "or Bookmarked SQL-query:". In this menu, you can select a previous bookmarked query...and execute it after a click on "Go" button.
If you want to enter a new query in the textarea "Run SQL query/queries on database dmoz", you can too !
A the bottom of the result you can see the standard "Insert new row". And..."or Bookmark this SQL-query". Click on the second link to bookmark this query :)
It's simple :)
Armel.
Salut Armel,
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 07:15:15PM +0200, Armel FAUVEAU wrote:
A demo :) http://www.globalis-hosting.com/~armel/phpmyadmin/
looks very interesting, thanks! Do you think you could add it to the current -devel tree ?
I see that only the "db" is used in the bookmarks table : should be enough, but maybe that adding also the userid would be more secure (for example I have a db with mutiple users, using the table privileges).
Have a nice week-end! Olivier, currently setting up linux on a nice Sun Ultra1 :)
looks very interesting, thanks! Do you think you could add it to the current -devel tree ?
Of course :) I hope this week.
I see that only the "db" is used in the bookmarks table : should be enough, but maybe that adding also the userid would be more secure (for example I have a db with mutiple users, using the table privileges).
It's a very good idea !
Have a nice week-end! Olivier, currently setting up linux on a nice Sun Ultra1 :)
Good :)
Armel.
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