[Phpmyadmin-devel] Catching up with you
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys, As you have noticed, I have been busy for some while. Because of this, I've hardly followed the discussions on the mailing lists and now I'm trying to catch up with the development, again. Could you guys give me a little update? ;-) Just some things I noticed while testing HEAD: 1) The interface scaling is partly broken, as far as I can see. With the default theme, all the text is displayed way too large - except for the optgroups in the database selection. With the darkblue / organge theme, it looks better, but there are still some places, where table captions are displayed too large. I noticed, that you've worked on some XHTML-related stuff, so I guess this is still under contruction? I could provide screen shots, if you want me to. 2) On server_status.php, I noticed that you have devided the variables into groups and added small descriptions. Well, at least for the different storage engines, I started doing the same on server_engines.php. For some variables, we now have even redundant descriptions in our lang files. :-/ Regarding the fact, that server_status.php has become quite large, I'd suggest to move the stuff that is related to a specific storage engine to server_engines.php and libraries/engines. 3) I have worked on a code splitup of server_privileges.php in order to implement the new MySQL 5 privileges, including the new privilege level and removing all "SELECT ... FROM mysql" queries on MySQL 5. I had to stop because of some bugs in MySQL 5, that have been fixed meanwhile. Is anyone working on the privilege system right now? Otherwise, I'd resume my work and try to merge it with the changes you have made during the time I've been inactive. Regards, AMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDVoCH8c/ssWf/SMcRAnF6AKCsNljPChPV69LOIsStc/+1nT1BcwCfRuYo MQ772WyWvaSDadcrR5fQfDM= =v8Xd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Alexander M. Turek a écrit :
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Hi guys,
As you have noticed, I have been busy for some while.
Because of this, I've hardly followed the discussions on the mailing lists and now I'm trying to catch up with the development, again. Could you guys give me a little update? ;-)
Just some things I noticed while testing HEAD:
1) The interface scaling is partly broken, as far as I can see. With the default theme, all the text is displayed way too large - except for the optgroups in the database selection. With the darkblue / organge theme, it looks better, but there are still some places, where table captions are displayed too large.
I noticed, that you've worked on some XHTML-related stuff, so I guess this is still under contruction? I could provide screen shots, if you want me to.
2) On server_status.php, I noticed that you have devided the variables into groups and added small descriptions. Well, at least for the different storage engines, I started doing the same on server_engines.php. For some variables, we now have even redundant descriptions in our lang files. :-/
Regarding the fact, that server_status.php has become quite large, I'd suggest to move the stuff that is related to a specific storage engine to server_engines.php and libraries/engines.
3) I have worked on a code splitup of server_privileges.php in order to implement the new MySQL 5 privileges, including the new privilege level and removing all "SELECT ... FROM mysql" queries on MySQL 5. I had to stop because of some bugs in MySQL 5, that have been fixed meanwhile.
Is anyone working on the privilege system right now? Otherwise, I'd resume my work and try to merge it with the changes you have made during the time I've been inactive.
As you can see from HEAD, server_privileges.php now supports MySQL 5 privileges. Still TODO: REQUIRE clause of GRANT: NONE SSL X509 CIPHER ISSUER SUBJECT Marc
Regards,
AMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marc, Marc Delisle schrieb:
As you can see from HEAD, server_privileges.php now supports MySQL 5 privileges.
But it does not support privileges granted on routine level and it still fetches the privileges from mysql.User etc, I guess.
Still TODO: REQUIRE clause of GRANT:
NONE SSL X509 CIPHER ISSUER SUBJECT
I know, but as lang as we don't support SSL connections to the MySQL server, this is a hard thing to test. :-) Regards, AMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDVoWe8c/ssWf/SMcRApjiAKCztMXEZsBwzquNVAREkd3TXeBmlwCeNBdE MHf11BC+S0Jw0RlwaxLmNjg= =HKsL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Alexander M. Turek a écrit :
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Hi Marc,
Marc Delisle schrieb:
As you can see from HEAD, server_privileges.php now supports MySQL 5 privileges.
But it does not support privileges granted on routine level and it still fetches the privileges from mysql.User etc, I guess.
Right. On a side note, we have check_user_privileges.lib.php that is used to see who can create a db and a table, and to see who is super-user for importing, based on SHOW GRANTS.
Still TODO: REQUIRE clause of GRANT:
NONE SSL X509 CIPHER ISSUER SUBJECT
I know, but as lang as we don't support SSL connections to the MySQL server, this is a hard thing to test. :-)
I don't see your point. SHOW GRANTS reports those options so we can report about them, and we can generate a GRANT command containing them. This way, PMA can be used to manage accounts for users of applications which implement mysqli_ssl_set(), even if PMA itself does not use SSL connections to MySQL. Marc
Alexander M. Turek wrote:
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Hi guys,
As you have noticed, I have been busy for some while.
Because of this, I've hardly followed the discussions on the mailing lists and now I'm trying to catch up with the development, again. Could you guys give me a little update? ;-)
Just some things I noticed while testing HEAD:
1) The interface scaling is partly broken, as far as I can see. With the default theme, all the text is displayed way too large - except for the optgroups in the database selection. With the darkblue / organge theme, it looks better, but there are still some places, where table captions are displayed too large.
I noticed, that you've worked on some XHTML-related stuff, so I guess this is still under contruction?
yes, XHTML compliance and more semantic (less tables more fieldsets aso.) and moving all styling into css is still in work ...
I could provide screen shots, if you want me to.
yes, please!
2) On server_status.php, I noticed that you have devided the variables into groups and added small descriptions. Well, at least for the different storage engines, I started doing the same on server_engines.php. For some variables, we now have even redundant descriptions in our lang files. :-/
oh, sorry, i didn't noticed ...
Regarding the fact, that server_status.php has become quite large, I'd suggest to move the stuff that is related to a specific storage engine to server_engines.php and libraries/engines.
yes, this was the next step i was also planning ... and even further same to the replication and SSL -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet
Alexander M. Turek wrote:
Could you guys give me a little update? ;-)
i have done some translation in german*, but i have left a comment on every newly translated string, so you can take a look over this and just remove the comments if all fine search for: //recently translated -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet
Hi On Wed 19. 10. 2005 19:21, Alexander M. Turek wrote:
1) The interface scaling is partly broken, as far as I can see. With the default theme, all the text is displayed way too large - except for the optgroups in the database selection.
The default theme uses fonts you have configured in your browser, I don't see anything wrong on this (if you like smaller fonts, configure your browser).
With the darkblue / organge theme, it looks better, but there are still some places, where table captions are displayed too large.
These themes use absolutely specified font sizes, what is not good. See [1] for some explanation (there are more resources on this topic on web, just google them). 1. http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-CSS-TECHS/#units -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi
On Wed 19. 10. 2005 19:21, Alexander M. Turek wrote:
1) The interface scaling is partly broken, as far as I can see. With the default theme, all the text is displayed way too large - except for the optgroups in the database selection.
The default theme uses fonts you have configured in your browser, I don't see anything wrong on this (if you like smaller fonts, configure your browser).
Yes, but with the same browser settings, the default theme in 2.6.4 displayed a font size that was much smaller and "correct". In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4. Marc
With the darkblue / organge theme, it looks better, but there are still some places, where table captions are displayed too large.
These themes use absolutely specified font sizes, what is not good. See [1] for some explanation (there are more resources on this topic on web, just google them).
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 16:02, Marc Delisle wrote:
Yes, but with the same browser settings, the default theme in 2.6.4 displayed a font size that was much smaller and "correct".
What is "correct" half of settings I have in browser? We were using small font size before, now it is normal.
In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4.
Just set fonts you'd like to see in firefox. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Michal Čihař a écrit :
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 16:02, Marc Delisle wrote:
Yes, but with the same browser settings, the default theme in 2.6.4 displayed a font size that was much smaller and "correct".
What is "correct" half of settings I have in browser? We were using small font size before, now it is normal.
Ok I see. I would even say that now we are using text a bit smaller than normal; for example, comparing the output of <html><body><p>No tables found in database.</p></body></html> with what comes from PMA. But it's ok like this...
In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4.
Just set fonts you'd like to see in firefox.
Marc
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 21:28, Marc Delisle wrote:
Ok I see. I would even say that now we are using text a bit smaller than normal; for example, comparing the output of <html><body><p>No tables found in database.</p></body></html>
with what comes from PMA. But it's ok like this...
What browser/OS do you use? Well I'm more interested which branch of PMA_setFontSizes you will get. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Michal Čihař a écrit :
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 21:28, Marc Delisle wrote:
Ok I see. I would even say that now we are using text a bit smaller than normal; for example, comparing the output of <html><body><p>No tables found in database.</p></body></html>
with what comes from PMA. But it's ok like this...
What browser/OS do you use? Well I'm more interested which branch of PMA_setFontSizes you will get.
Currently I am on PMA_USR_OS == Linux PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == MOZILLA So I get this: $font_size = 'medium'; $font_biggest = 'x-large'; $font_bigger = 'large'; $font_smaller = 'small'; $font_smallest = 'x-small'; Marc
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 22:04, Marc Delisle wrote:
Currently I am on PMA_USR_OS == Linux PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == MOZILLA
So I get this: $font_size = 'medium'; $font_biggest = 'x-large'; $font_bigger = 'large'; $font_smaller = 'small'; $font_smallest = 'x-small';
And this is smaller than before? Well it shouldn't be, unless there is something broken inside your browser :-). -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Michal Čihař a écrit :
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 22:04, Marc Delisle wrote:
Currently I am on PMA_USR_OS == Linux PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == MOZILLA
So I get this: $font_size = 'medium'; $font_biggest = 'x-large'; $font_bigger = 'large'; $font_smaller = 'small'; $font_smallest = 'x-small';
And this is smaller than before? Well it shouldn't be, unless there is something broken inside your browser :-).
It could be: I just checked again in Win2K /Firefox and with Original theme I get the same font size, comparing 2.6.4 and 2.7.0. Alexander, your tests are under Linux only? Marc
Marc Delisle a écrit :
Michal Čihař a écrit :
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 22:04, Marc Delisle wrote:
Currently I am on PMA_USR_OS == Linux PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == MOZILLA
So I get this: $font_size = 'medium'; $font_biggest = 'x-large'; $font_bigger = 'large'; $font_smaller = 'small'; $font_smallest = 'x-small';
And this is smaller than before? Well it shouldn't be, unless there is something broken inside your browser :-).
It could be: I just checked again in Win2K /Firefox and with Original theme I get the same font size, comparing 2.6.4 and 2.7.0.
Alexander, your tests are under Linux only?
Marc
After a mail conversation with Sebastian, he pointed me to PMA_setFontSize() and I just found that there is a difference between PMA 2.6.4 and 2.7.0. This is a section from 2.7.0: else if ((PMA_USR_OS == 'Mac' && ((PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT != 'IE' && PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT != ' MOZILLA') || PMA_USR_BROWSER_VER < 5)) || PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == 'KONQUEROR' || PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == 'MOZILLA') { and in 2.6.4, the last "OR" was not there. || PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == 'MOZILLA') { Do we really need this? Marc
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Michal Čihař a écrit :
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 22:04, Marc Delisle wrote:
Currently I am on PMA_USR_OS == Linux PMA_USR_BROWSER_AGENT == MOZILLA
So I get this: $font_size = 'medium'; $font_biggest = 'x-large'; $font_bigger = 'large'; $font_smaller = 'small'; $font_smallest = 'x-small';
And this is smaller than before? Well it shouldn't be, unless there is something broken inside your browser :-).
I just checked again under Win2K /Firefox: no difference between 2.6.4 and 2.7.0! Alexander, are you seeing this problem on Linux only? Marc
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal & list, I've sent a few screenshots to Sebastian because they did not make it to the list. Please finde them here: http://rabus.phpmyadmin.net/devel/interface-2.7/ Michal Čihař schrieb:
Yes, but with the same browser settings, the default theme in 2.6.4 displayed a font size that was much smaller and "correct".
What is "correct" half of settings I have in browser?
"Correct" means, that the font sizes should match relatively to each other. But they don't always, as you can see on original-2.7.jpg.
We were using small font size before, now it is normal.
phpMyAdmin ist not a content management system. We do not display text decoments, we display data, sometimes a lot of data. For this purpose, we need to stick with small font sizes, imho.
In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4.
Just set fonts you'd like to see in firefox.
So, I set the font sizes according to what I like them to be in PMA. And the same thing for google... and for SourceForge... Hey, why don't I just create different browser profiles, one for each website I'm going to visit and for each web application I'm goint to use in my hole life... I know, that I can tell my browser what font sizes to use, but I don't see, why I suddeny have to - as the old values were always fine for everyone. Regards, AMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDZ4B/8c/ssWf/SMcRAlgIAJsEB3HgybZzEPvc82cChFLTJ8MRqgCeNkR9 tgUmZ7yPjfP33wpJ3T4ksAg= =QxD7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi On Tue 1. 11. 2005 15:49, Alexander M. Turek wrote:
I've sent a few screenshots to Sebastian because they did not make it to the list. Please finde them here:
Oh, this is bad, I didn't notice such behaviour yet.
Michal Čihař schrieb:
Yes, but with the same browser settings, the default theme in 2.6.4 displayed a font size that was much smaller and "correct".
What is "correct" half of settings I have in browser?
"Correct" means, that the font sizes should match relatively to each other. But they don't always, as you can see on original-2.7.jpg.
You're right at this point, some font sizes seem to be absolute what is wrong.
We were using small font size before, now it is normal.
phpMyAdmin ist not a content management system. We do not display text decoments, we display data, sometimes a lot of data.
For this purpose, we need to stick with small font sizes, imho.
I don't see any reason for this. I personally prefer font sizes I have set in my browser as those are best readable for me.
In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4.
Just set fonts you'd like to see in firefox.
So, I set the font sizes according to what I like them to be in PMA. And the same thing for google... and for SourceForge... Hey, why don't I just create different browser profiles, one for each website I'm going to visit and for each web application I'm goint to use in my hole life...
Do you really need different font size for each application?
I know, that I can tell my browser what font sizes to use, but I don't see, why I suddeny have to - as the old values were always fine for everyone.
You know everyone? :-) -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, Michal Čihař schrieb:
Do you really need different font size for each application?
Not yet, and I'd like to keep it that way. :-p
I know, that I can tell my browser what font sizes to use, but I don't see, why I suddeny have to - as the old values were always fine for everyone.
You know everyone? :-)
At least I did not notice any major complaints about our old font sizes. Regards, AMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDacZU8c/ssWf/SMcRAhcuAJ4q+wDgDVXJiAlG1nkgDPpoZ8yVgACgsq/I TjYOgah7Tn79QufkcG6pV5w= =qkYt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi Alex On Thu 3. 11. 2005 09:12, Alexander M. Turek wrote:
Hi there,
Michal Čihař schrieb:
Do you really need different font size for each application?
Not yet, and I'd like to keep it that way. :-p
But you said you need it. You want different font size for some CMS and different for phpMyAdmin.
I know, that I can tell my browser what font sizes to use, but I don't see, why I suddeny have to - as the old values were always fine for everyone.
You know everyone? :-)
At least I did not notice any major complaints about our old font sizes.
I did notice some, however I don't dare to tell that everyone is going to like any settings. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Alexander M. Turek wrote:
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Hi Michal & list,
I've sent a few screenshots to Sebastian because they did not make it to the list. Please finde them here:
pls check CVS -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet
Alexander M. Turek wrote:
In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4. Just set fonts you'd like to see in firefox.
So, I set the font sizes according to what I like them to be in PMA. And the same thing for google... and for SourceForge... Hey, why don't I just create different browser profiles, one for each website I'm going to visit and for each web application I'm goint to use in my hole life...
no, web-sites/applications like sf, google, pma aso. should not set generall font-size at all! font size should be set by user in browser! and by default this font-size is equal to system font size so all this sites will display in the same font-size, with beeing the same as like in your writer, mail app, fiel browser aso. and than only on special places or special content will alter the font-size, like h1 (120% or 1.2em or big) or footnotes (0.8em or 75% or smallest) -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet
Michal Čihař a écrit :
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 16:02, Marc Delisle wrote:
Yes, but with the same browser settings, the default theme in 2.6.4 displayed a font size that was much smaller and "correct".
What is "correct" half of settings I have in browser? We were using small font size before, now it is normal.
In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4.
Just set fonts you'd like to see in firefox.
Michal, so, why are we setting font sizes in PMA_setFontSizes() at all? Is it because some older browsers cannot change the font size? Marc
Marc Delisle wrote:
Michal Čihař a écrit :
On Sat 29. 10. 2005 16:02, Marc Delisle wrote:
Yes, but with the same browser settings, the default theme in 2.6.4 displayed a font size that was much smaller and "correct".
What is "correct" half of settings I have in browser? We were using small font size before, now it is normal.
In Firefox, I have to hit ctrl/- twice to go back to the same size as in 2.6.4.
Just set fonts you'd like to see in firefox.
Michal, so, why are we setting font sizes in PMA_setFontSizes() at all? Is it because some older browsers cannot change the font size?
i would also like to drop this ... at all, i would even drop setting font sizes in CSS, or at least set it only once for body and eventually make the default h1, h2 a little bit smaller - but not more! f.e. setting the font sizes for select-tag to the same as in body-tag has wired effects, by default font sizes in select, option, optgroup is a little bit smaller than in parent element (body), this resulting in different font sizes in a select box, as PMA only sets select and not option, optgroup -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet
Hi On Mon 7. 11. 2005 09:27, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
i would also like to drop this
... at all, i would even drop setting font sizes in CSS, or at least set it only once for body and eventually make the default h1, h2 a little bit smaller - but not more!
I also do not see need to set font sizes ... anyway there is still some bug in font sizes, see attached welcome message (darkblue/orange theme). -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
On Mon 7. 11. 2005 09:27, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
i would also like to drop this
... at all, i would even drop setting font sizes in CSS, or at least set it only once for body and eventually make the default h1, h2 a little bit smaller - but not more!
I also do not see need to set font sizes ... anyway there is still some bug in font sizes, see attached welcome message (darkblue/orange theme).
pls check CVS -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet
Hi On Fri 18. 11. 2005 12:50, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
Michal Čihař wrote:
I also do not see need to set font sizes ... anyway there is still some bug in font sizes, see attached welcome message (darkblue/orange theme).
pls check CVS
Fix confirmed, thanks -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Hi On Sat 5. 11. 2005 13:28, Marc Delisle wrote:
so, why are we setting font sizes in PMA_setFontSizes() at all? Is it because some older browsers cannot change the font size?
AFAIK only some browsers have too big default fonts (eg. MSIE), that's why this was requested. Then we ended with too many ifs for each browser on the world... -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
On Sat 5. 11. 2005 13:28, Marc Delisle wrote:
so, why are we setting font sizes in PMA_setFontSizes() at all? Is it because some older browsers cannot change the font size?
AFAIK only some browsers have too big default fonts (eg. MSIE), that's why this was requested. Then we ended with too many ifs for each browser on the world...
i think we should drop all this, and leave this to the CSS in the themes. -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet
Hi On Fri 11. 11. 2005 08:55, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
On Sat 5. 11. 2005 13:28, Marc Delisle wrote:
so, why are we setting font sizes in PMA_setFontSizes() at all? Is it because some older browsers cannot change the font size?
AFAIK only some browsers have too big default fonts (eg. MSIE), that's why this was requested. Then we ended with too many ifs for each browser on the world...
i think we should drop all this, and leave this to the CSS in the themes.
I agree, comments from others? -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
Michal Čihař a écrit :
Hi
On Fri 11. 11. 2005 08:55, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
On Sat 5. 11. 2005 13:28, Marc Delisle wrote:
so, why are we setting font sizes in PMA_setFontSizes() at all? Is it because some older browsers cannot change the font size?
AFAIK only some browsers have too big default fonts (eg. MSIE), that's why this was requested. Then we ended with too many ifs for each browser on the world...
i think we should drop all this, and leave this to the CSS in the themes.
I agree, comments from others?
Ok for me: after 2.7.0. Marc
Hi On Fri 11. 11. 2005 14:23, Marc Delisle wrote:
Ok for me: after 2.7.0.
Created RFE #1356066 for remembering this. -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com
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