Hi,
I would like some feedback about a message freeze for 2.9.0 because I'm preparing the batch.
Marc
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:16:29PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
Hi,
I would like some feedback about a message freeze for 2.9.0 because I'm preparing the batch.
I need to finish off my followup from OSCON 2006, but there is one short thing relevant to the message freeze.
For the cookie login page, there were a number of requests that the field labels be changed to 'MySQL username' and 'MySQL password' etc.
This is to differentiate it from an htaccess assigned username/password, or username from some other system.
See the attached patch (that might need some fuzz to apply). (I haven't commited it myself).
Robin H. Johnson a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:16:29PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
Hi,
I would like some feedback about a message freeze for 2.9.0 because I'm preparing the batch.
I need to finish off my followup from OSCON 2006, but there is one short thing relevant to the message freeze.
For the cookie login page, there were a number of requests that the field labels be changed to 'MySQL username' and 'MySQL password' etc.
What about just changing $strLogin: "Log in" to "Log in to MySQL" or something like that? It would appear as a legend of the fieldset that encloses Username, Password and Server and I think the look would be better than a repetition of MySQL.
This is to differentiate it from an htaccess assigned username/password, or username from some other system.
See the attached patch (that might need some fuzz to apply). (I haven't commited it myself).
--- lang/english-iso-8859-1.inc.php.orig 2006-08-02 14:50:16.000000000 -0700 +++ lang/english-iso-8859-1.inc.php 2006-08-02 14:51:08.000000000 -0700 @@ -425,9 +425,9 @@ $strLoginInformation = 'Login Information'; $strLogin = 'Log in'; $strLogout = 'Log out'; -$strLogPassword = 'Password:'; -$strLogServer = 'Server'; -$strLogUsername = 'Username:'; +$strLogPassword = 'MySQL Password:'; +$strLogServer = 'MySQL Server'; +$strLogUsername = 'MySQL Username:'; $strLongOperation = 'This operation could take a long time. Proceed anyway?';
$strMaxConnects = 'max. concurrent connections';
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On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:44:11PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
What about just changing $strLogin: "Log in" to "Log in to MySQL" or something like that? It would appear as a legend of the fieldset that encloses Username, Password and Server and I think the look would be better than a repetition of MySQL.
Yes, that would work. Possible Suggestions: 'Login for MySQL' 'Login details for MySQL'
Robin H. Johnson a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:44:11PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
What about just changing $strLogin: "Log in" to "Log in to MySQL" or something like that? It would appear as a legend of the fieldset that encloses Username, Password and Server and I think the look would be better than a repetition of MySQL.
Yes, that would work. Possible Suggestions: 'Login for MySQL' 'Login details for MySQL'
We had a discussion a while ago and it seemed better to use the verb "Log in", same as on sf.net home page, instead of the noun login.
Marc
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Robin H. Johnson a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:44:11PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
What about just changing $strLogin: "Log in" to "Log in to MySQL" or something like that? It would appear as a legend of the fieldset that encloses Username, Password and Server and I think the look would be better than a repetition of MySQL.
Yes, that would work. Possible Suggestions: 'Login for MySQL' 'Login details for MySQL'
We had a discussion a while ago and it seemed better to use the verb "Log in", same as on sf.net home page, instead of the noun login.
"Log in to MySQL Server"
or
"MySQL server login"
i would prefer the second
"log in" is the command/task to execute it, and "login" means the process of logging in ("the login" or "to log in")
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Robin H. Johnson a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:44:11PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
What about just changing $strLogin: "Log in" to "Log in to MySQL" or something like that? It would appear as a legend of the fieldset that encloses Username, Password and Server and I think the look would be better than a repetition of MySQL.
Yes, that would work. Possible Suggestions: 'Login for MySQL' 'Login details for MySQL'
We had a discussion a while ago and it seemed better to use the verb "Log in", same as on sf.net home page, instead of the noun login.
"Log in to MySQL Server"
or
"MySQL server login"
i would prefer the second
"log in" is the command/task to execute it, and "login" means the process of logging in ("the login" or "to log in")
I felt it was an improvement when we put "Log in" on this panel (in 2.7.0). At least in English it's more direct to put the action first. Maybe in German it's different.
To continue in the same style, I vote for your first suggestion, but a lowercase s for server:
Log in to MySQL server
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Robin H. Johnson a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:44:11PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
What about just changing $strLogin: "Log in" to "Log in to MySQL" or something like that? It would appear as a legend of the fieldset that encloses Username, Password and Server and I think the look would be better than a repetition of MySQL.
Yes, that would work. Possible Suggestions: 'Login for MySQL' 'Login details for MySQL'
We had a discussion a while ago and it seemed better to use the verb "Log in", same as on sf.net home page, instead of the noun login.
"Log in to MySQL Server"
or
"MySQL server login"
i would prefer the second
"log in" is the command/task to execute it, and "login" means the process of logging in ("the login" or "to log in")
I felt it was an improvement when we put "Log in" on this panel (in 2.7.0). At least in English it's more direct to put the action first.
yes, it was, for the button
to log in but the login
it is like
education = login educate = log in
education form = login form educate me = log me in
Maybe in German it's different.
no, and even if it is, german is not relevant here ... ;-)
just for the completenes
log in = anmelden login = Anmeldung
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Robin H. Johnson a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:44:11PM -0400, Marc Delisle wrote:
What about just changing $strLogin: "Log in" to "Log in to MySQL" or something like that? It would appear as a legend of the fieldset that encloses Username, Password and Server and I think the look would be better than a repetition of MySQL.
Yes, that would work. Possible Suggestions: 'Login for MySQL' 'Login details for MySQL'
We had a discussion a while ago and it seemed better to use the verb "Log in", same as on sf.net home page, instead of the noun login.
"Log in to MySQL Server"
or
"MySQL server login"
i would prefer the second
"log in" is the command/task to execute it, and "login" means the process of logging in ("the login" or "to log in")
I felt it was an improvement when we put "Log in" on this panel (in 2.7.0). At least in English it's more direct to put the action first.
yes, it was, for the button
Not just for the button. In 2.8.2 we have "Log in" as the legend of the fieldset.
We also use the verb "Log out".
I still think that in an interface, the first words you read are the most important.
to log in but the login
it is like
education = login educate = log in
education form = login form educate me = log me in
Maybe in German it's different.
no, and even if it is, german is not relevant here ... ;-)
just for the completenes
log in = anmelden login = Anmeldung
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Marc Delisle -
Robin H. Johnson -
Sebastian Mendel