Hi all,
today i received this message (below) from Hosteurope.de and forwarding it to the team (especially Marc) to decide how to reply:
Hosteurope (ISP for webspace, virtual server and housing)
is asking for permission to use phpMyAdmin with her own theme without PMA logo - for better integration with their other user interfaces
(they already use phpMyAdmin for their customers, but with default theme)
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Erstellung eines phpMyAdmin-Themes mit eigenem Logo möglich? Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:42:40 +0200 From: Thomas von Mengden tvm@hosteurope.de To: cybot_tm@users.sourceforge.net CC: Christoph Selbach cs@hosteurope.de
Sehr geehrter Herr Mendel,
hinsichtlich unseres Markenrelaunches beabsichtigen wir, die eingesetzte phpMyAdmin-Oberfläche mit einem eigenen Theme den aktuell verwendeten Web-Oberflächen anderer Plattformen für unsere Kunden anzubieten, um ein einheitliches Erscheinungsbild einzuhalten, sofern dies möglich ist.
Hierfür würden wir gerne das phpMyAdmin-Logo in der oberen linken Ecke des phpMyAdmin durch unser eigenes ersetzen, um das einheitliche Erscheingungsbild zu unterstreichen. In der beigefügten Lizenz ist dies nicht explizit verboten, weiterhin finden sich auf der offiziellen phpMyAdmin-Website im Internet auch einige Themes ohne offizielles Logo.
Würden wir die Zustimmung seitens des Entwickler-Teams von phpMyAdmin bekommen, ein eigenes Logo zu implementieren?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Thomas von Mengden
Hi
Dne Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:09:33 +0200 Sebastian Mendel lists@sebastianmendel.de napsal(a):
Hi all,
today i received this message (below) from Hosteurope.de and forwarding it to the team (especially Marc) to decide how to reply:
Hosteurope (ISP for webspace, virtual server and housing)
is asking for permission to use phpMyAdmin with her own theme without PMA logo - for better integration with their other user interfaces
(they already use phpMyAdmin for their customers, but with default theme)
I don't see any problem with that.
Hi there,
Sebastian Mendel schrieb:
Hosteurope (ISP for webspace, virtual server and housing)
is asking for permission to use phpMyAdmin with her own theme without PMA logo - for better integration with their other user interfaces
(they already use phpMyAdmin for their customers, but with default theme)
I guess that's fine with the GPL as long as changing the theme does not result in removing/hiding copyright information (e.g. the README file).
But another thing that came to my mind when reading this: What about the custom theme itself? I'm not a GPL specialist, but does the GPL force them to make their theme available under the GPL, too? If so, is this something we want? :-)
Regards,
Alexander
Michael Keck a écrit :
Hi there,
I've take some notices at the GPL file last week for an other project
--- Original Message --- Mail from: cand. inf. Alexander M. Turek Date: 10.06.2009 16:47
Hi there,
Sebastian Mendel schrieb:
Hosteurope (ISP for webspace, virtual server and housing)
is asking for permission to use phpMyAdmin with her own theme without PMA logo - for better integration with their other user interfaces
(they already use phpMyAdmin for their customers, but with default theme)
I guess that's fine with the GPL as long as changing the theme does not result in removing/hiding copyright information (e.g. the README file).
Yes that's right, and perhabs a link to GPL license?
But another thing that came to my mind when reading this: What about the custom theme itself? I'm not a GPL specialist, but does the GPL force them to make their theme available under the GPL, too?
And what you're thinking about this?
screen form an other isp
I would give the same answer as in my previous message.
Marc
cand. inf. Alexander M. Turek a écrit :
Hi there,
Sebastian Mendel schrieb:
Hosteurope (ISP for webspace, virtual server and housing)
is asking for permission to use phpMyAdmin with her own theme without PMA logo - for better integration with their other user interfaces
(they already use phpMyAdmin for their customers, but with default theme)
I guess that's fine with the GPL as long as changing the theme does not result in removing/hiding copyright information (e.g. the README file).
But another thing that came to my mind when reading this: What about the custom theme itself? I'm not a GPL specialist, but does the GPL force them to make their theme available under the GPL, too? If so, is this something we want? :-)
Hi Alexander,
reading this:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic
I would answer that since they released their version publicly, it's also covered by the GPL. In some sense, the custom theme is a modification of the original theme, no?
I think that we should inform them of this. However I don't think we should merge their custom theme in our SVN or offer it for download. They would have the responsibility of giving access to the source code.
Marc
Hi again,
Marc Delisle schrieb:
reading this:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic
I would answer that since they released their version publicly, it's also covered by the GPL. In some sense, the custom theme is a modification of the original theme, no?
It definitely is! But keep in mind, that their company logo will be part of the custom theme. I don't think that a company wants to put its logo under the GPL just because of a PMA theme. This is why I asked if we really want them to release their theme under the GPL.
I think that we should inform them of this. However I don't think we should merge their custom theme in our SVN or offer it for download. They would have the responsibility of giving access to the source code.
I agree.
Regards,
Alexander
cand. inf. Alexander M. Turek a écrit :
Hi again,
Marc Delisle schrieb:
reading this:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic
I would answer that since they released their version publicly, it's also covered by the GPL. In some sense, the custom theme is a modification of the original theme, no?
It definitely is! But keep in mind, that their company logo will be part of the custom theme. I don't think that a company wants to put its logo under the GPL just because of a PMA theme. This is why I asked if we really want them to release their theme under the GPL.
I'm not sure that images need to be covered by GPL; after all, GPL is mainly for code. But I've yet to find something official about this. I just read http://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic/5446.
Marc
I think that we should inform them of this. However I don't think we should merge their custom theme in our SVN or offer it for download. They would have the responsibility of giving access to the source code.
I agree.
Regards,
Alexander
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Hi all,
today i received this message (below) from Hosteurope.de and forwarding it to the team (especially Marc) to decide how to reply:
Hosteurope (ISP for webspace, virtual server and housing)
is asking for permission to use phpMyAdmin with her own theme without PMA logo - for better integration with their other user interfaces
(they already use phpMyAdmin for their customers, but with default theme)
Hi Sebastian,
no problem for me, as we already have a feature that permits to specify the logo.
Marc
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