[Phpmyadmin-devel] MySQL 4.1.0
Hey All! I just read Alex' comment for one of our RFE, that MySQL 4.1.0 is released and he wants to start work after 2.5.0. I don't know how excessive the changes made for 4.1.0 are, so maybe anyone can explain that to me, before I dig around? And maybe a rough estimate of how much this affects our application... I for one would like to have 4.1.0 support for PMA 2.5.0. I wouldn't like to have the 4.1.0-enabled version two weeks after 2.5.0 release and forcing people to update their PMA to 2.5.1. Instead I think it is a good idea, if possible, to delay the release of 2.5.0 to put in the new MySQL support. I think this is worth the wait, because surely many developpers will update their MySQL now. What do you think of that? Regards, Garvin.
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:07:45AM +0200, Garvin Hicking wrote:
I just read Alex' comment for one of our RFE, that MySQL 4.1.0 is released and he wants to start work after 2.5.0. I don't know how excessive the changes made for 4.1.0 are, so maybe anyone can explain that to me, before I dig around? And maybe a rough estimate of how much this affects our application... Alex did take a look at one point I think. I'll try it on one of my experimental servers in a week or so, I'm busy with final exams at the moment. Just at a glance, the change in all text types for character set support looks like it could be a serious issue. My existing SQL parser should support the majority of things needed, but the analyzer will probably need some work.
If you really want to find out for yourself, put it on one of your servers, in a non-standard install location to co-exist with your current MySQL unless you are feeling lucky. I have a feeling that 4.1 will break a LOT of existing code, just as 4.0 did. A large number of applications haven't even caught up to the breakages caused by 4.0 yet.
I think this is worth the wait, because surely many developpers will update their MySQL now. I'd say that anybody that runs the new MySQL 4.1.0 ALPHA on a production server should be taken out and shot. You only need to look at the early alphas of MySQL 4.0 to see how hazardous that is. MySQL 4.0.6-beta was the earliest MySQL4.0 that work successful and marginally stablely on my developement and testing machines. When it went gamma I did a limited rollout onto production systems, and changed them over when it because stable quality.
I for one would like to have 4.1.0 support for PMA 2.5.0. I wouldn't like to have the 4.1.0-enabled version two weeks after 2.5.0 release and forcing people to update their PMA to 2.5.1. Instead I think it is a good idea, if possible, to delay the release of 2.5.0 to put in the new MySQL support. Having support for MySQL 4.1.0 will definetly speed the adoption of MySQL 4.1.0 greatly. However I think we shouldn't delay 2.5.0 any more. If the people are THAT cutting edge that they are running MySQL 4.1.0, then they won't mind upgrading phpMyAdmin.
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Robin H. Johnson a écrit:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:07:45AM +0200, Garvin Hicking wrote:
Having support for MySQL 4.1.0 will definetly speed the adoption of MySQL 4.1.0 greatly. However I think we shouldn't delay 2.5.0 any more. If the people are THAT cutting edge that they are running MySQL 4.1.0, then they won't mind upgrading phpMyAdmin.
I agree about not delaying 2.5.0. Marc
Hi Robin! Your arguments are quite good, I didn't think it that way and wasn't aware of major changes for 4.1.0 - and I thought that 4.1.0 would be already Beta because there's so much hype around for that version.
I'd say that anybody that runs the new MySQL 4.1.0 ALPHA on a production server should be taken out and shot. If the people are THAT cutting edge that they are running MySQL 4.1.0, then they won't mind upgrading phpMyAdmin.
You got me. Let's feature freeze 2.5.0 when Alex' got some news about the install script. :) Regards, Garvin.
-----Original Message----- From: Garvin Hicking
Your arguments are quite good, I didn't think it that way and wasn't aware of major changes for 4.1.0 - and I thought that 4.1.0 would be already Beta because there's so much hype around for that version.
Making phpMyAdmin MySQL 4.1 compatible won't be that easy, so I think we should wait untill 2.5.0 is out.
I'd say that anybody that runs the new MySQL 4.1.0 ALPHA on a production server should be taken out and shot.
Exactly :-)
If the people are THAT cutting edge that they are running MySQL 4.1.0, then they won't mind upgrading phpMyAdmin.
You got me. Let's feature freeze 2.5.0 when Alex' got some news about the install script. :)
I've got some news: I won't get it ready for 2.5.0, so I have to delay it for 2.5.1. I'm very sorry about that, but the script is really to "alpha" to release it now. But it's going to be great, you'll see! :-) Let's feature freeze and go for RC1! Alexander M. Turek <alex@bugfixes.info> +-----------------------------+ | The phpMyAdmin Project | | http://www.phpmyadmin.net | | rabus@users.sourceforge.net | +-----------------------------+ | [bugfixes.info] | | http://www.bugfixes.info | | rabus@bugfixes.info | +-----------------------------+
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