11 Apr
2010
11 Apr
'10
7:09 a.m.
Hi,
when I selected the components I needed from jQuery UI, it produced a 14
KB file (minified) which is now in js/jquery. But as we will need more
components, should we just produce one which contains all components?
Its minified version is 211 KB but it would be cached by browsers.
There is also the issue of localization but I had a look and only the
datepicker is localized.
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11 Apr
11 Apr
9:15 a.m.
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Hi,
when I selected the components I needed from jQuery UI, it produced a 14
KB file (minified) which is now in js/jquery. But as we will need more
components, should we just produce one which contains all components?
Its minified version is 211 KB but it would be cached by browsers.
There is also the issue of localization but I had a look and only the
datepicker is localized.
--
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
Please keep in mind that debugging js is alot easier if the libraries
are available in uncompressed form.
Philip
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9:23 a.m.
Philip Frank a écrit :
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Hi Philip,
please enlighten me. Do you mean we have to debug these libraries, or
that it's useful to have them in uncompressed form when calling them
from our own scripts?
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Hi,
when I selected the components I needed from jQuery UI, it produced a 14
KB file (minified) which is now in js/jquery. But as we will need more
components, should we just produce one which contains all components?
Its minified version is 211 KB but it would be cached by browsers.
There is also the issue of localization but I had a look and only the
datepicker is localized.
--
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
Please keep in mind that debugging js is alot easier if the libraries
are available in uncompressed form.
Philip
9:28 a.m.
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Philip Frank a écrit :
Hi Marc,
no, usually you don't have to debug into jQuery code, but it can be
enlightening to jump into it and see what's actually going on in case
something does not behave how you expect it. Also, with the event
handling, you sometimes have to jump through the libraries code to see
what actually triggered the event.
Philip
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle
<marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Hi Philip,
please enlighten me. Do you mean we have to debug these libraries, or
that it's useful to have them in uncompressed form when calling them
from our own scripts? Hi,
when I selected the components I needed from jQuery UI, it produced a 14
KB file (minified) which is now in js/jquery. But as we will need more
components, should we just produce one which contains all components?
Its minified version is 211 KB but it would be cached by browsers.
There is also the issue of localization but I had a look and only the
datepicker is localized.
--
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
Please keep in mind that debugging js is alot easier if the libraries
are available in uncompressed form.
Philip
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11:21 a.m.
Philip Frank a écrit :
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
So we should put compressed and uncompressed libs in the tree, implement
a mechanism in the loading process (js_include) so that the uncompressed
one is loaded when a developer needs it, and tweak the release mechanism
to remove the uncompressed ones in the release kit?
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Philip Frank a écrit :
Hi Marc,
no, usually you don't have to debug into jQuery code, but it can be
enlightening to jump into it and see what's actually going on in case
something does not behave how you expect it. Also, with the event
handling, you sometimes have to jump through the libraries code to see
what actually triggered the event.
Philip 2010/4/11 Marc Delisle
<marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Hi Philip,
please enlighten me. Do you mean we have to debug these libraries, or
that it's useful to have them in uncompressed form when calling them
from our own scripts? Hi,
when I selected the components I needed from jQuery UI, it produced a 14
KB file (minified) which is now in js/jquery. But as we will need more
components, should we just produce one which contains all components?
Its minified version is 211 KB but it would be cached by browsers.
There is also the issue of localization but I had a look and only the
datepicker is localized.
--
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
Please keep in mind that debugging js is alot easier if the
libraries
are available in uncompressed form.
Philip 
12 Apr
12 Apr
11:47 a.m.
Hi
Dne Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:21:57 -0400
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
So we should put compressed and uncompressed libs in
the tree, implement
a mechanism in the loading process (js_include) so that the uncompressed
one is loaded when a developer needs it, and tweak the release mechanism
to remove the uncompressed ones in the release kit?
I think best approach would be to include not compressed JS in the tree
and compress all of it (including our own code) when creating a
release. To obey GPL, also the original form should be included in the
tarball.
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13 Apr
13 Apr
6:42 a.m.
Hi
Dne Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:47:49 +0200
Michal Čihař <michal(a)cihar.com> napsal(a):
Dne Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:21:57 -0400
Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info> napsal(a):
I've just pushed this approach to master. I mean compressing JS on
release, not replacing jQuery with non compressed versions.
To compress js just run scripts/compress-js, you need to have Java
installed for that.
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So we should put compressed and uncompressed libs
in the tree, implement
a mechanism in the loading process (js_include) so that the uncompressed
one is loaded when a developer needs it, and tweak the release mechanism
to remove the uncompressed ones in the release kit?
I think best approach would be to include not compressed JS in the tree
and compress all of it (including our own code) when creating a
release. To obey GPL, also the original form should be included in the
tarball. 
11 Apr
11 Apr
11:23 a.m.
Hi Marc,
we can use to js-min.php to compress the javascript-source files
and send these to the browser.
I'm doing this on my jquery-Demo Page and it works perfect.
Other point is, with this technique we can send localized javascript.
I will contribute a sample under
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.js.zip
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.css.zip
It's only a sample and can be modified how you like ;)
Michael
Am 11.04.2010 14:28, schrieb Philip Frank:
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Philip Frank a écrit :
Hi Marc,
no, usually you don't have to debug into jQuery code, but it can be
enlightening to jump into it and see what's actually going on in case
something does not behave how you expect it. Also, with the event
handling, you sometimes have to jump through the libraries code to see
what actually triggered the event.
Philip
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle
<marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Hi Philip,
please enlighten me. Do you mean we have to debug these libraries, or
that it's useful to have them in uncompressed form when calling them
from our own scripts?
Hi,
when I selected the components I needed from jQuery UI, it produced a 14
KB file (minified) which is now in js/jquery. But as we will need more
components, should we just produce one which contains all components?
Its minified version is 211 KB but it would be cached by browsers.
There is also the issue of localization but I had a look and only the
datepicker is localized.
--
Marc Delisle
http://infomarc.info
Please keep in mind that debugging js is alot easier if the libraries
are available in uncompressed form.
Philip
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11:38 a.m.
Michael Keck a écrit :
Hi Marc,
we can use to js-min.php to compress the javascript-source files
and send these to the browser.
I'm doing this on my jquery-Demo Page and it works perfect.
Hi Michael,
But no browser caching, I guess?
Other point is, with this technique we can send
localized javascript.
I will contribute a sample under
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.js.zip
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.css.zip
It's only a sample and can be modified how you like ;)
Michael
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11:54 a.m.
Clients will also cache this if the Expires headers are sent.
2010/4/11 Marc Delisle <marc(a)infomarc.info>fo>:
Michael Keck a écrit :
Hi Marc,
we can use to js-min.php to compress the javascript-source files
and send these to the browser.
I'm doing this on my jquery-Demo Page and it works perfect.
Hi Michael,
But no browser caching, I guess?
Other point is, with this technique we can send
localized javascript.
I will contribute a sample under
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.js.zip
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.css.zip
It's only a sample and can be modified how you like ;)
Michael
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2:02 p.m.
Hi Marc,
by default my libraries uses browser cache. The server cache for the
gzipped files is optional.
Michael
Am 11.04.2010 16:38, schrieb Marc Delisle:
Michael Keck a écrit :
Hi Marc,
we can use to js-min.php to compress the javascript-source files
and send these to the browser.
I'm doing this on my jquery-Demo Page and it works perfect.
Hi Michael,
But no browser caching, I guess?
Other point is, with this technique we can send
localized javascript.
I will contribute a sample under
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.js.zip
http://michaelkeck.de/projects/jquery/compressor.css.zip
It's only a sample and can be modified how you like ;)
Michael
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