[Phpmyadmin-devel] fixed font sizes
Hi, I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt'; didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the user's responsability in his browser? See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2... Marc
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi,
I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt';
didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the user's responsability in his browser?
See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2...
yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not? -- Sebastian
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi,
I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt';
didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the user's responsability in his browser?
See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2...
yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not?
Well, I think that not forcing a font size and telling users that they have control over the font size from their browser, should be appropriate for original, darkblue_orange and all the custom themes... Marc
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi,
I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt';
didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the user's responsability in his browser?
See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2... yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not?
Well, I think that not forcing a font size and telling users that they have control over the font size from their browser, should be appropriate for original, darkblue_orange and all the custom themes...
yes, i think this too ... but the users don't ... i have no problem dropping this ... btw. after fixing this quirks mode and scrollbar bug i would like to implement a new selectbox on the mainpage, where the user can select font size in % - than it is clear that the base font size in all themes should be removed. -- Sebastian
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi,
I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt';
didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the user's responsability in his browser?
See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2... yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not? Well, I think that not forcing a font size and telling users that they have control over the font size from their browser, should be appropriate for original, darkblue_orange and all the custom themes...
yes, i think this too ... but the users don't ... i have no problem dropping this ... btw. after fixing this quirks mode and scrollbar bug i would like to implement a new selectbox on the mainpage, where the user can select font size in % - than it is clear that the base font size in all themes should be removed.
Selecting font size in % does not seem very intuitive to offer to the majority of users. I don't remember where but sometimes I see icons looking like A+ A- The A meaning "text size", so users can increase or decrease it with one click. We could even store this in their cookies :) ---------------------------------- About the font size and this code: select, input, textarea { font-size: 0.7em; } Please also have a look and add your comments at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2...
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi,
I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt';
didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the user's responsability in his browser?
See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2... yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not? Well, I think that not forcing a font size and telling users that they have control over the font size from their browser, should be appropriate for original, darkblue_orange and all the custom themes...
yes, i think this too ... but the users don't ... i have no problem dropping this ... btw. after fixing this quirks mode and scrollbar bug i would like to implement a new selectbox on the mainpage, where the user can select font size in % - than it is clear that the base font size in all themes should be removed.
Selecting font size in % does not seem very intuitive to offer to the majority of users. I don't remember where but sometimes I see icons looking like
A+ A-
why not a selection? how about: Font-size: [100% \/] A+ A A-
The A meaning "text size", so users can increase or decrease it with one click. We could even store this in their cookies :)
yes of course, like lang und charset
----------------------------------
About the font size and this code:
select, input, textarea { font-size: 0.7em; }
this is one of the things that will be obsolete if the IE uses standard compliance mode to render our page - one of the reasons why i work on the scrollbar bug and the current fix on phpMyAdmin, at the moment the scrollbar bug is fixed by forcing IE into quirks mode, what makes all this trouble with CSS, the above is just one of this -- Sebastian
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi,
I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt';
didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the user's responsability in his browser?
See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2... yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not? Well, I think that not forcing a font size and telling users that they have control over the font size from their browser, should be appropriate for original, darkblue_orange and all the custom themes... yes, i think this too ... but the users don't ... i have no problem dropping this ... btw. after fixing this quirks mode and scrollbar bug i would like to implement a new selectbox on the mainpage, where the user can select font size in % - than it is clear that the base font size in all themes should be removed. Selecting font size in % does not seem very intuitive to offer to the majority of users. I don't remember where but sometimes I see icons looking like
A+ A-
why not a selection?
how about:
Font-size: [100% \/] A+ A A-
Ok let's try it.
The A meaning "text size", so users can increase or decrease it with one click. We could even store this in their cookies :)
yes of course, like lang und charset
----------------------------------
About the font size and this code:
select, input, textarea { font-size: 0.7em; }
this is one of the things that will be obsolete if the IE uses standard compliance mode to render our page - one of the reasons why i work on the scrollbar bug and the current fix on phpMyAdmin, at the moment the scrollbar bug is fixed by forcing IE into quirks mode, what makes all this trouble with CSS, the above is just one of this
I agree with removing quirk mode, but... this one is not a IE-only problem, it happens in all browsers. Like Juergen says in the thread, even if we do not put a fixed-font size of 8 into a theme, an admin could do it. Then, Juergen finds that multiplying this by .7 gives a too small font. Marc
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb: > Hi, > > I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see > $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt'; > > didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the > user's responsability in his browser? > > See > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2... yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not? Well, I think that not forcing a font size and telling users that they have control over the font size from their browser, should be appropriate for original, darkblue_orange and all the custom themes... yes, i think this too ... but the users don't ... i have no problem dropping this ... btw. after fixing this quirks mode and scrollbar bug i would like to implement a new selectbox on the mainpage, where the user can select font size in % - than it is clear that the base font size in all themes should be removed. Selecting font size in % does not seem very intuitive to offer to the majority of users. I don't remember where but sometimes I see icons looking like
A+ A- why not a selection?
how about:
Font-size: [100% \/] A+ A A-
Ok let's try it.
The A meaning "text size", so users can increase or decrease it with one click. We could even store this in their cookies :) yes of course, like lang und charset
----------------------------------
About the font size and this code:
select, input, textarea { font-size: 0.7em; } this is one of the things that will be obsolete if the IE uses standard compliance mode to render our page - one of the reasons why i work on the scrollbar bug and the current fix on phpMyAdmin, at the moment the scrollbar bug is fixed by forcing IE into quirks mode, what makes all this trouble with CSS, the above is just one of this
I agree with removing quirk mode, but...
this one is not a IE-only problem, it happens in all browsers. Like Juergen says in the thread, even if we do not put a fixed-font size of 8 into a theme, an admin could do it. Then, Juergen finds that multiplying this by .7 gives a too small font.
yes, this will be completely removed, this is what i mean that it will become obsolete -- Sebastian
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit : > Marc Delisle schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> I wonder why in darkblue_orange's layout.inc.php we see >> $GLOBALS['cfg']['FontSize'] = '8pt'; >> >> didn't we decide to avoid forcing a font size, saying that this is the >> user's responsability in his browser? >> >> See >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1494593&group_id=2... > yes we decided, but for Default theme, or not? many users who use > darkblue uses this theme also for the smaller font size - or not? Well, I think that not forcing a font size and telling users that they have control over the font size from their browser, should be appropriate for original, darkblue_orange and all the custom themes... yes, i think this too ... but the users don't ... i have no problem dropping this ... btw. after fixing this quirks mode and scrollbar bug i would like to implement a new selectbox on the mainpage, where the user can select font size in % - than it is clear that the base font size in all themes should be removed. Selecting font size in % does not seem very intuitive to offer to the majority of users. I don't remember where but sometimes I see icons looking like
A+ A- why not a selection?
how about:
Font-size: [100% \/] A+ A A- Ok let's try it.
The A meaning "text size", so users can increase or decrease it with one click. We could even store this in their cookies :) yes of course, like lang und charset
----------------------------------
About the font size and this code:
select, input, textarea { font-size: 0.7em; } this is one of the things that will be obsolete if the IE uses standard compliance mode to render our page - one of the reasons why i work on the scrollbar bug and the current fix on phpMyAdmin, at the moment the scrollbar bug is fixed by forcing IE into quirks mode, what makes all this trouble with CSS, the above is just one of this I agree with removing quirk mode, but...
this one is not a IE-only problem, it happens in all browsers. Like Juergen says in the thread, even if we do not put a fixed-font size of 8 into a theme, an admin could do it. Then, Juergen finds that multiplying this by .7 gives a too small font.
yes, this will be completely removed, this is what i mean that it will become obsolete
Hi Sebastian, any idea when? We have to think about 2.9.0 roadmap. Marc
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi Sebastian, any idea when? We have to think about 2.9.0 roadmap.
could someone please add: $str['Font_size'] = 'Font size'; (label for the font size select box, uppercase is no mistake, to differ from 'font size' currently not used - but who knows) to the lang files? thanks! -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de
Sebastian Mendel schrieb:
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi Sebastian, any idea when? We have to think about 2.9.0 roadmap.
could someone please add:
$str['Font_size'] = 'Font size';
$strFont_size = 'Font size'; of course!
(label for the font size select box, uppercase is no mistake, to differ from 'font size' currently not used - but who knows)
to the lang files?
thanks!
-- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Sebastian Mendel schrieb:
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi Sebastian, any idea when? We have to think about 2.9.0 roadmap. could someone please add:
$str['Font_size'] = 'Font size';
$strFont_size = 'Font size';
of course!
(label for the font size select box, uppercase is no mistake, to differ from 'font size' currently not used - but who knows)
to the lang files?
thanks!
Yes I'll do it in a few hours. Marc
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Sebastian Mendel schrieb:
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi Sebastian, any idea when? We have to think about 2.9.0 roadmap. could someone please add:
$str['Font_size'] = 'Font size';
$strFont_size = 'Font size';
of course!
(label for the font size select box, uppercase is no mistake, to differ from 'font size' currently not used - but who knows)
to the lang files?
thanks!
Sebastian, As we use no underscore in the messages variable names, I added $strFontSize = 'Font size'; Marc
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Sebastian Mendel schrieb:
Marc Delisle schrieb:
Hi Sebastian, any idea when? We have to think about 2.9.0 roadmap. could someone please add:
$str['Font_size'] = 'Font size'; $strFont_size = 'Font size';
of course!
(label for the font size select box, uppercase is no mistake, to differ from 'font size' currently not used - but who knows)
to the lang files?
thanks!
Sebastian, As we use no underscore in the messages variable names, I added
$strFontSize = 'Font size';
ok, thanks -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de
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