Hi,
byte units are international, or not?
why are this in the locale string files?
and i think we should use MiB instead of MB
and B instead of Bytes
Hi
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:16:39 +0100 Sebastian Mendel lists@sebastianmendel.de wrote:
byte units are international, or not?
They are, but can be written differently:
$ grep byteUnits lang/*utf* | grep -v EB lang/arabic-utf-8.inc.php://$byteUnits = array('بايت', 'كيلوبايت', 'ميجابايت', 'غيغابايت'); lang/belarusian_cyrillic-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('Б', 'КБ', 'МБ', 'ГБ', 'ТБ', 'ПБ', 'ЭБ'); lang/bulgarian-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('байта', 'КБ', 'МБ', 'ГБ', 'ТБ', 'ПБ', 'ЕБ'); lang/finnish-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('tavua', 'kt', 'Mt', 'Gt', 'Tt', 'Pt', 'Et'); lang/french-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('Octets', 'Ko', 'Mo', 'Go', 'To', 'Po', 'Eo'); lang/hindi-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array(' बैट्स', ' केबी', ' एमबी', ' जीबी','टीबी','पीबी','ईबी'); lang/mongolian-utf-8.inc.php://$byteUnits = array('Байт', 'кБ', 'МБ', 'ГБ'); lang/persian-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('بايت', 'كيلوبايت', 'مگا بايت', 'گيگا بايت', 'ترابايت', 'پتا بايت', 'اگزا بايت'); lang/russian-utf-8.inc.php://$byteUnits = array('Байт', 'кБ', 'МБ', 'ГБ'); lang/serbian_cyrillic-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('бајтова', 'КБ', 'МБ', 'ГБ', 'ТБ', 'ПБ', 'ЕБ'); lang/thai-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('ไบต์', 'กิโลไบต์', 'เมกกะไบต์', 'กิกะไบต์', 'เทอราไบต์', 'เพตตะไบต์', 'เอกซะไบต์'); lang/ukrainian-utf-8.inc.php://$byteUnits = array('Байт', 'кБ', 'МБ', 'ГБ');
why are this in the locale string files?
See above for reason ;-)
and i think we should use MiB instead of MB
You're right.
and B instead of Bytes
Probably yes.
Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:16:39 +0100 Sebastian Mendel lists@sebastianmendel.de wrote:
byte units are international, or not?
They are, but can be written differently:
$ grep byteUnits lang/*utf* | grep -v EB lang/arabic-utf-8.inc.php://$byteUnits = array('بايت', 'كيلوبايت', 'ميجابايت', 'غيغابايت'); lang/persian-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('بايت', 'كيلوبايت', 'مگا بايت', 'گيگا بايت', 'ترابايت', 'پتا بايت', 'اگزا بايت'); lang/thai-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('ไบต์', 'กิโลไบต์', 'เมกกะไบต์', 'กิกะไบต์', 'เทอราไบต์', 'เพตตะไบต์', 'เอกซะไบต์');
except this three all others seems just translated chars, the above are just seems to be the unabbreviated writing
looking through different wikipedia pages (langs) makes me think that this is not right!
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E9%80%B2%E6%8E%A5%E9%A0%AD%E8%BE%9E http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%... http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A9fixe_binaire
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin%C3%A1rn%C3%AD_p%C5%99edpona ;-)
aso.
... but we have to rely on the translators ...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:15:30 +0100 Sebastian Mendel lists@sebastianmendel.de wrote:
except this three all others seems just translated chars, the above are just seems to be the unabbreviated writing
Probably yes, it should be fixed.
looking through different wikipedia pages (langs) makes me think that this is not right!
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E9%80%B2%E6%8E%A5%E9%A0%AD%E8%BE%9E http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%... http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A9fixe_binaire
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin%C3%A1rn%C3%AD_p%C5%99edpona ;-)
aso.
... but we have to rely on the translators ...
Yes we have to. Do not forget that Wikipedia is also not 100% perfect source of information.
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Michal Čihař wrote:
Hi
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:16:39 +0100 Sebastian Mendel lists@sebastianmendel.de wrote:
byte units are international, or not?
They are, but can be written differently:
$ grep byteUnits lang/*utf* | grep -v EB lang/arabic-utf-8.inc.php://$byteUnits = array('بايت', 'كيلوبايت', 'ميجابايت', 'غيغابايت'); lang/persian-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('بايت', 'كيلوبايت', 'مگا بايت', 'گيگا بايت', 'ترابايت', 'پتا بايت', 'اگزا بايت'); lang/thai-utf-8.inc.php:$byteUnits = array('ไบต์', 'กิโลไบต์', 'เมกกะไบต์', 'กิกะไบต์', 'เทอราไบต์', 'เพตตะไบต์', 'เอกซะไบต์');
except this three all others seems just translated chars, the above are just seems to be the unabbreviated writing
looking through different wikipedia pages (langs) makes me think that this is not right!
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E9%80%B2%E6%8E%A5%E9%A0%AD%E8%BE%9E http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%...
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A9fixe_binaire
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin%C3%A1rn%C3%AD_p%C5%99edpona ;-)
So, the prefix (for example Mi) seems to be standard, but not the "thing" counted (for example bytes).
aso.
... but we have to rely on the translators ...
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Hi,
byte units are international, or not?
I don't think so.
why are this in the locale string files?
I had a look at http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9bioctet and in French, MiB is Mio. For B they suggest o, mentionning also that there is a risk of confusion with the number 0. So I think I would stay with "octets" for B, but switch the other ones.
and i think we should use MiB instead of MB
and B instead of Bytes
Yes, in English and in other languages which do not have a language-specific abbreviation for those.
We could ask translators to check if their translations respect the new units defined in 1998 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
but for PMA 2.9.0, ok? :)
Marc
Marc Delisle wrote:
Sebastian Mendel a écrit :
Hi,
byte units are international, or not?
I don't think so.
why are this in the locale string files?
I had a look at http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9bioctet and in French, MiB is Mio. For B they suggest o, mentionning also that there is a risk of confusion with the number 0. So I think I would stay with "octets" for B, but switch the other ones.
and i think we should use MiB instead of MB
and B instead of Bytes
Yes, in English and in other languages which do not have a language-specific abbreviation for those.
We could ask translators to check if their translations respect the new units defined in 1998 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
but for PMA 2.9.0, ok? :)
for sure!
Hi
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:25:38 -0500 Marc Delisle Marc.Delisle@cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca wrote:
Yes, in English and in other languages which do not have a language-specific abbreviation for those.
Well in Czech there is also translation for byte, but almost nobody actually uses it.
We could ask translators to check if their translations respect the new units defined in 1998 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
Without deleting old translation, most won't fix it. And there are some translations who do not define all units.
but for PMA 2.9.0, ok? :)
Of course ;-)
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