Hi, i would once more vote for removing this nasty @s if it is really a problem for you we could disable displaying of errors in common.lib.php or using ob_*() function to catch all output till and of common.lib.php and @ does not only hide error messages from being displayed but also hides them from being logged just disabling display errors can also lead to the same problem if logging of errors is also disabled if using ob_*() we can catch all output (where no output should happen) and check this - and than can present the user that there are some errors occurred and they should check there error log file and/or enable it and/or tell the administrators about this ob_*() is fine till no 'official' output is happening - but later this is not possible - so we could also use our own error-handler any opinions? -- Sebastian Mendel www.sebastianmendel.de